So much bad pro-abortion reasoning, so little time

As evidence that some people get older without getting wiser, this pro-abortion post by an elderly woman and the accompanying  comments section trotted out one fallacious sound bite after another. I noticed it because it linked to my site somehow.

I could have spent hours there but just left the comment below. No use spending too much time in an echo chamber.  They actually seem to think that their bumper sticker mentality makes sense.

The indented parts are comments from the post and the rest is what I wrote.


Like my husband says, “Whether or not to have a child is a woman’s choice. Period. End of story.”

That ignores that a female is destroyed 50% of the time during an abortion. Actually, over 50%, since virtually all gender selection abortions are performed to kill females for the sole reason that they are female. It is the ultimate misogyny.

All your back-slapping sound bites ignore a scientific fact: A new human being is created at conception — . That isn’t religion, that is science. And abortion destroys that innocent human being.

And how those a-holes have the gall to call themselves ‘pro-life’ when they are calling for death to anyone who is pro-choice is beyond me.

That is a straw man argument. I know it is convenient to demonize your opponents instead of addressing their arguments, but really now — all pro-lifers call for the death of any pro-choicers? C’mon.

For some women it is a time of great sadness – a pregnancy gone wrong, a wanted child not to be.

Using that logic one could support infanticide.

Against abortion? Don’t have one.

Slave owners used the same nonsensical argument. It is like saying, “Don’t like theft? Then don’t steal.” Once again you ignore the human being in the equation who gets killed.

Have you ever noticed that anti-abortionists don’t give a damn about the baby once it’s out of the womb? That’s when all interest in life ceases with these folks.

I hadn’t noticed that. There are more crisis pregnancy centers than abortion clinics, and they offer their services for free — unlike Planned Parenthood, who charges $400 for abortions no matter how poor you are.

And even if we did nothing to help with our time and money, we could still protest the destruction of innocent human life. If the government was going to solve the homeless problem by killing homeless people, could you protest that without having to take them into your house?


Junk DNA – the real story — interesting read about how “junk DNA” isn’t junky at all and how evolutionists viewed it as proof of evolution both when it was considered junk and now that it isn’t.  Convenient, eh?

The ACLU’s concerns about privacy seem to vary with who is in the White House.

Wait, Obama used to claim that they weren’t aiming at universal health care.  He must have been misquoted here.  But you can totally trust him that his Executive Order about abortions will stand.

The Left’s shrill cries about potential violence and alleged racist comments (still no evidence, BTW) are really tiresome.  Both sides have freaks, but the media reporting is hopelessly one sided.  Bart Stupak had plenty of threats when he was pretending to be on the pro-life side, but those weren’t widely reported.  Read the link for many more examples.

Planned Parenthood hates black people


Pedophiles should be in prison for life or dead.  Their recidivism rate is extremely high and they claim many victims, often ruining them for life.  The Pope and the Catholic church are rightly under fire again for more pedophilia cover-ups.

People in leadership who hide pedophiles should be in jail as well, and fired from their jobs at a minimum.

While much sexual abuse involves straight males and young girls, the Catholic church’s issues do not follow that pattern:

In a statement, read out by Arhbishop Silvano Maria Tomasi at a meeting of the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva on 22 September 2009, the Holy See stated that the majority of Catholic clergy who had committed acts of sexual abuse against under 18 year olds should not be viewed as paedophiles, but as homosexuals who are attracted to sex with adolescent males. The statement said that rather than paedophilia, “it would be more correct to speak of ephebophilia; being a homosexual attraction to adolescent males” ……. “Of all priests involved in the abuses, 80 to 90% belong to this sexual orientation minority which is sexually engaged with adolescent boys between the ages of 11 and 17.”

The move angered many gay rights organisations, who claimed it was an attempt by the Vatican to redefine the Church’s past problems with paedophilia as problems with homosexuality.

Play all the word games you like, but that fact is that the majority of the abuse involved adult males having sex with young males.  This shows the danger of political correctness.

This is not just a Catholic problem, of course.  Abuse occurs all over.

And as the Hillbuzz gang points out, the MSM never tells the masses about Islamic pedophilia:

First of all, before we say anything negative about the Catholic Church, we would like to point out the simple fact the MSM does not, ever, report on the millions of young boys who are raped on a daily basis in the Middle East, in the name of Islam, by Muslims who consider sex with young boys to be their right.  All of us here studied Islam in college, and no study of Islam is complete without a look at what Muslim men do to young boys.  “Women are for children, boys are for pleasure” is a very common phrase in Islam. Harems of young boys have things done to them no priest has ever done, in any country.  But, in terms of calling Islam out on its many sins, the MSM issues just the sound of crickets.

They also had some interesting anecdotes about suspected gay kids being pushed into the priesthood.


Is Christianity a crutch?  Is atheism a crutch?

Seattle Mom: School Sent My Daughter for Secret Abortion without Telling Me — The government thinks it has the right to kill your grandchild and have surgery performed on your daughter without your consent.  But you can’t send her to school with an Advil or she’ll get suspended.

And people want to give the government more control over their health?

The True Cost Of Government Involvement — If history is any indication, Obamacare won’t cost $1 trillion — which would have been insanely high to begin with — it will cost anywhere from $2 trillion to $17 trillion.

Read Ann Coulter’s follow up about her Canada speech that was canceled due to riots — riots fueled by people who hate her.  The irony is so spectacular, yet the Left doesn’t see it.

Obama’s Executive Order is Invalid — But everyone knew that, right?  At least Planned Parenthood knows it.  Faux-lifers like Sojourners pretend it means something, but they are bad actors.

Another faux-lifer / pro-abortion “social gospel” person — she claimed that “Nobody lobbies for powerless little children, other than the “social justice” people!” which is false enough by itself, but she doesn’t lobby for powerless little unborn children.  They consider this to be justice.

She also said, “The question the Social Justice Christians ask, IMO, is “what must I DO to be saved”?”  I pointed out that the question was asked and answered in the Bible in the story of the Philippian jailer:

Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” (Acts 16:30–31, ESV)

That is the opposite answer of what she gave.  So there’s another “social justice” person teaching a false gospel.

Jim Wallis & wealth redistribution

I don’t watch Glenn Beck but I am glad to know he was highlighting Jim Wallis’ false teachings.  Glenn is a Mormon but he knows the Bible better than Wallis & Co.  Here are videos of Beck talking about Wallace (Hat tip: Christine).

From a January 13, 2006 radio interview with Interfaith Voices:

Host: Are you then calling for the redistribution of wealth in society?

Wallis: Absolutely, without any hesitation.  That’s what the Gospel is all about.

That is classic false teaching.  I’d heed the words of Paul before the words of Wallis:

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8–9, ESV)

Galatians 1:10 also applies to these world-lovers:

For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. (Galatians 1:10, ESV)

More background on Wallis here.  His politics are bad enough, but what really is deceptive about him is is faux centrism.  They milk the “God is not a Republican . . . or a Democrat” sound bite but they don’t believe a word of it.

He was a keynote speaker to the 2008 ACORN Convention.  In a great slip of the tongue, he is almost introduced as Jeremiah Wright.

You can’t change the politicians, you need to change the direction, and ACORN is an organization that can change the direction of the country by pressing from the outside and I have no doubt ACORN will be making their voices heard regardless of who occupies 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.



Faux-lifers are the self-identified “pro-lifers” who supported the health care bill.  They fought having the Stupak Amendment added and/or they risked the bill’s passage to ensure that taxpayer-funded abortions would be included.  From now on I consider them pro-abortion, not pro-life or even pro-choice.

These folks claimed that they wanted to reduce abortions.  But you don’t reduce abortions by increasing abortions, and that is what this bill will do.  They’ll insist that better health care will reduce the need for abortions, but under no circumstances does giving away free abortions reduce abortions.

Social justice Christians like Jim Wallis and the Sojourners claim to be pro-life, but they celebrated the passage of the bill. They are pretending that the Executive Order by Obama actually means something. Even Stupak knew it meant nothing.  Do they know something that Planned Parenthood doesn’t know?  Because PP thinks the EO was symbolic and that they will be increasing abortions soon.  And why did they champion the bill all along and not fight for the Stupak Amendment?

False teachers like Chuck Currie specifically cheered the abortion coverage.  That is a twisted but predictable response from someone who claimed to want to reduce abortions.

I would love to be wrong on this, but anyone who thinks that the pro-aborts who fought that long and hard are going to give up because Obama signed an unenforceable piece of paper are either naive or foolish.

They play the fallacious safe, legal and rare card and the “I’ll oppose abortions once there is absolutely no demand for them” line of reasoning.  But they have un-masked themselves permanently: If they weren’t on record strongly fighting for the Stupak Amendment, you know they are really faux-lifers.

What is more dangerous?

False teacher Chuck Currie says the Tea Party movement is a “dangerous coalition.”  But this pro-abortion “reverend” doesn’t think this is dangerous.

Thanks to “Christians” like Chuck Currie, the most dangerous places in America are (1) a  mother’s womb and (2) a hospital room for an old person.

See Health Care Reform Passes; America Moves Closer To Being The Beloved Community.


Ann Coulter files hate speech claim against Canadian university —  where you can speak your mind as long as no one (on the Left) gets offended.  Coming soon to a country near you!

Hillary Clinton is OK with abortions, just not gender-selection abortions — but if they don’t kill innocent human beings, why does the motive count?  (hat tip: Chance)

Great summary on the health care debacle by Marshall.

I should be overjoyed at ACORN calling it quits, but they are obviously just changing their names and reorganizing.  They won’t go far, and they’ll still get their funding.

Bart Stupak and the myth of the “pro-life Democrat” — I can’t tell you how many “pro-life Democrats” I know who voted for Obama, the most pro-abortion President ever.

False teacher considers taxpayer-funded abortions to being part of a “beloved community” — no surprise there.

Did everyone sign the health care bill? You know I did!

Seriously,  I will grant that Obama & Co. do a much better job of influencing people than the Republicans.  It is proven — though not that well known — that even getting people to do small gestures like signing a document or donating $5 dramatically increases their commitment to a candidate or program (even a horrible, horrible candidate/program like this one).

Wine or grape juice? Yes!

I was thrilled when I visited my oldest daughter’s church at Christmas.  It is a non-denominational church that seemed to do everything “just right.”  Passionate music with meaningful lyrics, Gospel-centered preaching that went verse-by-verse through a passage in Micah, a proper focus on giving, an emphasis on church planting, and more.

They even had a clever solution for communion.  When I went to receive it a guy was holding two cups.  I immediately realized that one was grape juice and one was wine.  I didn’t have a preference so I didn’t bother to look for the labels ( I think I got wine).

Either way, I thought it was a terrific approach to something that can divide people unnecessarily.  I’m in the debate-don’t-divide camp regarding non-essential issues so I love seeing solutions like this.

Ecumenical / non-denominational efforts sometimes get wimpy or even heretical with their theology.  Instead of uniting on the essentials they ignore everything even remotely controversial and end up with the sort of un-biblical or even anti-biblical theology you’ll find at the World Council of Churches, the National Council of Churches, Sojourners and the like.

I’m very encouraged that there are churches like this out there.  I hope they grow and expand across the country.  It was definitely an answered prayer for my daughter to land in such a theologically sound and well-run church.

Trivia fact: You can read about how grape juice became a popular choice for communion here.  Short version: A Methodist named Welch (yep, as in Welch’s) sought an alternative to wine.

False teacher considers taxpayer-funded abortions to being part of a “beloved community”

It sure makes it easy when fake Christians are so clear about their false beliefs.  Chuck Currie, unrepentant serial liar, writes about how happy he is that abortions will increase in Health Care Reform Passes; America Moves Closer To Being The Beloved Community.  It is truly nauseating that he parades as a Christian while espousing those beliefs, as if Jesus would be pro-abortion like him.

As a member of Clergy for Choice, I also join Planned Parenthood and others who have voiced concern over how this legislation further deteriorates the rights of women to make their own health care decisions but also rejoice with Planned Parenthood that the legislation does not include the Stupak abortion ban . . . This is a moral victory that brings our nation closer to being the Beloved Community we want it to be.

As with most pro-abortionists, he uses catch phrases like “rights of women to make their own health care decisions” while ignoring that another human being gets destroyed in the process — and one that, at least 50% of the time, is female.  Actually it is higher than 50% since virtually all gender selection abortions destroy females for the sole reason that they are female.  But Chuck is glad those are legal, too!

And he’ll be extra-happy that the rate of blacks aborted will now be even higher than three-to-one.

Chuck supports “gendercide” and black genocide.

And he, like virtually all other Democrats, were willing to risk the rest of the health care reform bill (as awful as it is) to be sure they could expand abortion coverage.  How very “Christian” and “beloved” of him.  Here are some examples of the humans that won’t get to join the community at all, thanks to people like Chuck.


James White debates Adnan Rashid on trustworthiness of the Bible vs Koran — The Wintery Knight has an easy to read summary of key differences between the Koran and the Bible.  Read it and you’ll know more than most Christians and Muslims do about the transmission of both texts.

Bob Stupak was faking it all along —  See the post and the video in the 9th comment.  Only a sucker would believe an executive order by Obama.  The bill had taxpayer-funded abortion in it all the time, and the Democrats lied about it the whole time.  What a sad day.

This wasn’t just about health care.  It was about the start of many more destructive bills pushed through the same unethical way.  Can’t wait for November!

New study shows that greens are less moral than ordinary people — I cheated and linked to two by the WK today.

Jimmy Carter is one happy guy these days


The Episcopal Church and Satan — yep.  I also heard a clip of their leader saying how non-Christians such as Jews and Muslims do not need the Gospel.  That only contradicts a few thousand Bible verses.

Poor in America — not what you think — I’m all for helping the poor.   The problem is that Liberal solutions usually create more truly poor people.  And many of those in power have a vested interest in inflating the number of poor.

If poverty means lacking nutritious food, adequate warm housing, and clothing for a family, relatively few of the 35 million people identified as being “in poverty” by the Census Bureau could be characterized as poor. Moreover, the United States can readily reduce its remaining poverty, especially among children. The main causes of child poverty are low levels of parental work and high numbers of single-parent families. By increasing work and marriage, our nation can virtually eliminate remaining child poverty.

Go read about how many of the “poor” in America have houses, cars, TVs, adequate nutrition, more living space than most Europeans, and more.  If you’ve been around the world on mission trips and such you know what real poverty is.

Hey guitar players — this $14 clip-on tuner is terrific.  It clips on your guitar (or other stringed instrument) and is very easy to read and use.

Girl Scouts Distribute Planned Parenthood Sex Guide at UN Meeting — PP is such a sick, creepy organization.  Your tax dollars at work, folks.  How did the Girl Scouts stoop so low to permit this sort of thing?

The World Association of Girl Scouts and Girl Guides hosted a no-adults-welcome panel at the United Nations this week where Planned Parenthood was allowed to distribute a brochure entitled “Healthy, Happy and Hot.” The event was part of the annual United Nations Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) which concludes this week.

Happy, Healthy and Hot The brochure, aimed at young people living with HIV, contains explicit and graphic details on sex, as well as the promotion of casual sex in many forms.  The brochure claims, “Many people think sex is just about vaginal or anal intercourse… But, there are lots of different ways to have sex and lots of different types of sex. There is no right or wrong way to have sex. Just have fun, explore and be yourself!” The brochure goes on to encourage young people to “Improve your sex life by getting to know your own body. Play with yourself! Masturbation is a great way to find out more about your body and what you find sexually stimulating. Mix things up by using different kinds of touch from very soft to hard. Talk about or act out your fantasies. Talk dirty to them.”

I do agree with Planned Parenthood that “An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun.” At least that was their view in a 1964 brochure, before they figured out how lucrative abortions would be.

It is amazing how these communicable disease rates would be extended-play front page news if they belonged to any other group.
The data, presented at CDC’s 2010 National STD Prevention Conference, finds that the rate of new HIV diagnoses among men who have sex with men (MSM) is more than 44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women.
The rate of primary and secondary syphilis among MSM is more than 46 times that of other men and more than 71 times that of women, the analysis says.

Political correctness is agreeing with things you know aren’t true because you want to be more accepted.  It is selfish and cowardly.  If the pro-gay theology crowd really cared about gays they’d teach what the word of God says and they’d work to reduce these disease rates.

The health care proposal is so bad that it even got the Hillbuzz gang back to church to pray.  They see that this isn’t just about a monstrosity of a health care bill.  They know it is the gateway to pass all sorts of other awful legislation that could destroy the country.

Speaking of Hitler, go read Hitler and abortion.  Great work by Polish pro-lifers.

A summary of President Obama’s recent pro-abortion zeal


Just finished another Kairos Prison Ministry weekend.  Exhausting but always joyful.  My role was pretty easy this time, just playing guitar and giving a 20 min. talk about the church and how they fit in it.  Blessings and answered prayers all around.

I thought these comments by other volunteers summarized things nicely:

[The prisoners] experienced Love, many for the first time in their life; they saw Hope, where none had existed before; and, they experienced Christ, who they may have known about but never experienced.

Final score:   God 42     Satan 0

The Scandal of Gendercide — War on Baby Girls by Al Mohler — He analyzes an article that appeared, surprisingly enough, in The Economist, which outlined the horrors of over 100 million “missing” girls due to abortion, infanticide or neglect.  Aside from the tragedy of killing females for the sole reason of their gender, the impact on society is enormous.  Please read it all.

Dems look to health vote without abortion foes — the title says it all.  As I’ve been pointing out, they could have had the health care bill completed long ago, but that wasn’t good enough.  They are willing to risk it all to ensure that they get taxpayer-funded abortions.

The Reagan / Obama debate — nicely done.

Social justice & Glenn Beck

From: Wesley Report: Alex, I’ll Take Social Justice For 500

Glenn Beck caused an uproar when he suggested that people should leave churches that talk about social and economic justice. Now Jim Wallis wants Christians to stop watching Beck, and Christian Post reports that Christian anti-poverty groups are up in arms. (This reference makes me wonder if there are Christian pro-poverty groups.)

The Wallis crowd is far removed from biblical truths. No matter what they read in the Bible they interpret it as a mandate for Christians to ask Caesar to take from neighbor A to give to neighbor B. It is all about income redistribution for them.  The average person in the world makes $850 / yr. I’ll be impressed when Wallis & Co. voluntarily give away enough to achieve that. After all, why do they just focus on the U.S.?

One “pastor” even claimed that Ananias and Sapphira were killed for not redistributing wealth, even though Peter explicitly notes the real sin (lying to the Holy Spirit) and that the funds had been theirs to do with as they wished. You don’t need to be able to dissect the Greek to understand that one.

And the Sojourners folks are mostly pro-legalized abortion, as if any serious notion of social justice could include the right to crush and dismember an innocent human being. This “minister” thinks the health care bill is pro-life, even though it most certainly will lead to taxpayer-funded abortions.  See Dems look to health vote without abortion foes for more on their deceptions.

Should Christians give generously? Absolutely! But it isn’t a virtue to give from your neighbor’s wallet.

Lobby for whatever political positions you like based on your case for why it is good public policy, but be very careful when you attach Jesus to your views.

Oddly, the social justice crowd does more to push their religious beliefs on the populace than anything the Right ever did. (We can argue the pro-life / pro-family case all day long with or without the Bible.) Why don’t the ACLU et al get mad about that? Oh, because they share the same political views.

It was also odd that they didn’t realize Beck was Mormon and/or that Mormons aren’t Christians.

P.S. I don’t watch or listen to Beck, Fox, Limbaugh, etc. Not that there’s anything wrong with that . . .

Has your condition been upgraded to alive?

When Mr. Burns was shot in an episode of The Simpsons, newscaster Kent Brockman delivered these lines:

Dozens of people are gunned down each day in Springfield, but until now none of them was important. I’m Kent Brockman.

At three p.m. Friday, local autocrat C. Montgomery Burns was shot following a tense confrontation at town hall.

Burns was rushed to a nearby hospital where he was pronounced dead. [scene shows Marvin Monroe Memorial Hospital]

He was then transferred to a better hospital where doctors upgraded his condition to “alive”. [scene shows Springfield General hospital]

I love the part about his condition being upgrade to “alive.”  That is a perfect phrase to describe what God has done to believers.  We were spiritually dead and He makes us spiritually alive.

Verses 8-9 get quoted a lot but read the rest of this closely as well:

Ephesians 2:1–10 (ESV) 1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

If your condition hasn’t been upgraded, now is a good time to ask.