Uh, maybe so, what with total depravity and all that.
But the abortions would still murder children, so they would be morally wrong.
Uh, maybe so, what with total depravity and all that.
But the abortions would still murder children, so they would be morally wrong.
From the “we’re gonna need a lot of millstones to clean this place up” category: Tax-funded PBS perverts aggressively indoctrinate children – but remember, legalizing oxymoronic “same-sex marriage” won’t impact you! — Alabama Public Television refuses to air Arthur episode with gay wedding
Best of the Bee
The Abortion Discourse in Social Media, Summed Up in One Conversation — The link is golden. Partial list below. Please read it all and share. It really does sum up the abortion debate well. All the pro-child-killing side has is one fallacious argument after another.
A summary of social media discourse over the last week, as it pertains to the abortion debate.
Me: “We need laws to protect the most innocent and vulnerable among us.”
Them: “You’re so fascist.”
Me: “I don’t think you know what that word means.”
Them: “Men shouldn’t tell women what to do.”
Me: “As a woman, should you tell men not to rape people?”
Them: “Yeah, but that involves hurting somebody else.”
Me: “So does abortion.”
Them: “No, a fetus isn’t a human being.”
Me: “Yeah, but…science and stuff.”
Them: “Don’t force your religion on me.”
Me: “Yeah, but…science and stuff. That’s literally, scientifically, and medically a living human being.”
Them: “But they’re not *really* a human being.”
Me: “Okay, Hitler.”
Them: “You just want to judge people.”
Me: “Is that wrong?”
Them: “Yes, it’s absolutely wrong to judge people.”
Me: “So am I wrong for that?”
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Women Preaching — Excellent biblical analysis on why women shouldn’t be preachers. This is needed more than ever as the Southern Baptist Convention and others bend to the culture.
The position which permits women preaching to mixed congregations cannot be supported from Scripture. Common descriptive biblical passages do not support the position. First Corinthians 14:34-35 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] and 1 Timothy 2:11-12 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] are the two prescriptive passages in the NT on the issue. Thus, they are the authority on the matter. Exegetically, both passages clearly forbid women from preaching and teaching to men in the local church. Therefore, NT churches must conduct themselves accordingly if they are going to be in obedience to Christ, the blessed Lord of the church.
For those who need a study to know that water is wet: Bombshell study explodes myth that same-sex parenting is no different
Coming soon to a country near you: Illegal Aliens Take Over Paris Airport
African illegal aliens calling themselves “black jackets” made a show of force at the main Paris airport yesterday afternoon, refusing to let passengers board their planes: “France does not belong to the French! Everyone has a right to be here!” one person can be heard yelling into a loudspeaker.It follows that everyone on the planet also has a right to generous French welfare benefits.
With several states doing the right thing and challenging Roe v Wade on its “personhood” distinction, it is a great time to be prepared to calmly and clearly refute pro-abortion sound bites.
Pro-abortion people exploit rape and incest victims to advance their child-killing cause, and they are joined by many pro-lifers who either haven’t thought the issue through carefully or are too scared to make the argument. They try to paint you as evil for not wanting rape and incest victims to “solve” their problems by killing any children produced during the crimes, but it is false compassion and a red herring because they don’t just want to keep those abortions illegal. They want all abortions to be legal, up to the child’s first breath.
Don’t shy away from that issue, just respond as follows.
I’m glad you brought up the topic of rape and incest. Those are terrible crimes that we should seek to prevent, and we should ensure that the victims aren’t further victimized and that there is justice for the rapists. If you propose the death penalty for the rapist I’d consider that, but why is it the first option for the innocent child? It is a scientific fact that the unborn are human beings from fertilization.
Abortionists such as Planned Parenthood help hide the crimes. They have been caught countless times hiding statutory rape, incest (which is another form of rape) and sex trafficking. If you really care about rape, then protest Planned Parenthood and how they systematically hide statutory rape and sex trafficking.
Unless you can look at an ultrasound and tell if a child was the product of rape or incest, then you shouldn’t let them be killed.
Abortion doesn’t undo the trauma of rape, it compounds it. It is another way of a stronger person abusing a weaker person.
Rapes results in less than 1% of abortions. Those abortions are still wrong, but for the record, would you oppose outlawing all abortions, except those in the cases of rape, incest and to save the life of the mother? If not, then why not admit that you are really just pro-abortion and that you use the rape/incest card to advance your cause? Stop exploiting rape victims to justify abortion.
Here’s a handy jpeg you can use on social media.
It must be exhausting to be a God-mocking, Molech-worshiping Leftist. You have to prop up all sorts of evil, inconsistent and anti-science ideas all day, every day. Exhibit A: Alyssa Milano, who called for a “sex strike” by women because some states are saying you can’t kill children with beating hearts.
She was quickly and thoroughly roasted on social media for proving the point of every conservative ever, namely that abstinence works! Mike Pence will be glad to know Alyssa has joined his side. And I’m sure her children are comforted knowing that mommy fought aggressively for the right to have been able to kill them.
She also got in trouble with professional feminists who rightly noted that Milano was implying that sex was just a weapon used by women to manipulate men. Apparently Milano doesn’t really enjoy sex, she just uses it to get what she wants and needs to be able to kill an unfortunate children created by her transaction.
Predictably, she trotted out the anti-science “reproductive rights” canard. For the 397th time, abortion kills children who have already been reproduced. Is that so hard to understand? If they hadn’t been reproduced you wouldn’t have anything to murder!
And of course, she had to apologize to the inevitable “trans” (note: still not a real thing) people with some unintelligible complaints about cisgender or the like.
Never forget that the #1 issue in life for feminists is being able to kill their children up to their first breath and without anesthetic. Oh, and even beyond that if the abortion fails to kill the child. Because they insist that the Constitution doesn’t just give you a right to abortion but to a dead baby.
There is a reason they are indistinguishable from the “Christian” Left, whose god says it is OK to kill children to their first breath. These are the real extremists, as most self-identified pro-choice people – and most Leftist countries – oppose late-term abortions.
Hopefully many women will heed her advice and stop having out-of-wedlock sex and realize how much better life is when doing things God’s way. The Bible teaches the original “sex strike” — no sex until a one man / one woman marriage. And the world would be a vastly better place if people heeded that.
Sadly, this illogical nonsense actually resonates with the child-killing Democrats, including the Molech-worshiping “Christian” Leftists who support abortion to the child’s first breath. It is all quite ridiculous, but go to the 6:00 mark for some scary comments.
These are painful decisions for these women
So? I don’t care how painful it is for you to decide to murder your child or whether you consulted your doctor or religious advisor, it is still wrong, just as it would be if you killed her outside the womb.
With all of your distortions and horrible tales, I answered it numerous times. When a woman gets pregnant it is not a human being inside of her.
Uh, that’s not what all those pesky embryology textbooks say, or even what common sense would dictate to even the dullest among us. What else would two human beings produce, a puppy? Of course it is a human being.
Even the chryon is fallacious, as it refers to “reproductive rights.” But reproductive rights have nothing to do with abortion, because a new human being has already been created. The question is whether you should be able to kill that human being. Never let the pro-aborts get away with using that term.
As always, I’m too pro-science to be pro-choice.
Pro-abortion “Christian” Leftists and other abortion advocates often refer to a passage in Exodus 21 to support their views. Don’t let them get away with such terrible and deadly reasoning.
When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman’s husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. (Exodus 21:22–25, ESV)
The short version is that the key word of the passage is, in rare circumstances, not translated well and says “miscarriage” instead of “children come out.” They conclude that if it is “just” a miscarriage and the perpetrator only got a fine, then what’s the big deal about abortion?
It you study the original Hebrew it becomes very clear that Moses did not mean that if the child is killed that the penalty is less severe. But the pro-aborts (rotten) cherry-pick a translation they can twist to justify murder to the child’s first breath.
But that is just one of many problems with their use of this passage. Here is a full list:
1. They get the text wrong. This is a pro-life passage, not a pro-legalized abortion passage. If Moses wanted to say “miscarriage” he could have used a much more specific word for that.
2. They ignore or rationalize away other Biblical texts that they don’t like, such as Leviticus 18:22 (ESV – You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.) So why do they find Exodus 21 so authoritative?
They ignore passages like Romans 1 where Paul explicitly declares homosexual behavior to be sinful because they think Paul didn’t know enough about biology and psychology (and they unwittingly tip their hand that they don’t believe any scripture is truly inspired by God). But if Paul is so ignorant and scripture is un-inspired, why trust Moses to know key scientific facts? They should dismiss the “miscarriage” term even if it had been in the original text because he didn’t have access to the scientific fact that a new human life begins at conception.
3. They don’t even agree with the other teachings of Exodus 21, such as verses 23-25.
But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
They are almost exclusively anti-capital punishment. So why do they rationalize away the destruction of over a million innocent human beings per year in the U.S. based on a poor translation of a single word and then ignore the rest of the passage which is much more clear?
4. They ignore the endless pro-life passages in the Bible.
In summary, Christians (the uninformed kind) and “Christians” (the fake kind) who use Exodus 21 as support for abortion on demand fail on many levels. If it weren’t for people like them Roe v Wade and the destruction that followed would not have happened.
More here: The Misuse of Exodus 21:22-25 by Pro-Choice Advocates by John Piper.
As the saying goes, exceptions make bad rules. But in the case of pro-abort “Christian” Racist Held Evans, she uses a false exception to make a horribly bad rule.
She plays on the sympathies of those with children diagnosed in utero with health issues. In her world, it is much better to kill the child right away because she might have serious health issues when born. That ignores that doctors and diagnoses are sometimes wrong (I’ve personally met several people who are glad they didn’t heed the advice to kill their children). It also ignores that God doesn’t permit mercy killings (then again, since when did pro-LGBTQX Mrs. Evans care what Jesus said?).
But as bad as that is, faux-lifer Evans isn’t using that argument to make the case to ban all abortions except those in her example She uses it to justify all abortions at any time, and to have taxpayers pay for abortions for those who can’t afford to kill their children. She piles evil upon evil. When pro-aborts make deceptive claims like that, ask them exactly which abortions they want to make illegal. Answer: None.
And to make it worse, she virtue signals in her pro-abort Tweet. You see, she is more righteous and caring than you because she would consider killing her child while you wouldn’t.
In an ultimate display of selfishness, Held Evans, a professing Christian (of course she isn’t a real Christian, but she has many Christian followers), asserts that she isn’t sure what she would do if she were told by a doctor that her unborn child may have a birth defect affecting the “quality” of the child’s life.
The problem here isn’t that Held Evans is concerned with the quality of the child’s life. Held Evans is concerned about the quality of her own life. She — and other abortion supporters just like her — see children not as a gift from God made in the image of God, but as a burden. Further, a child that may need special care and extra attention would, in Held Evans’ eyes, decrease her own “quality of life.”This is the sickness of the pro-choice movement. You can’t call yourself a Christian while holding to anti-Christ beliefs. The gospel calls us to lay our own lives down, pick up our cross, and follow Jesus. Held Evans and the many pro-choice (or undecided) people out there have failed to see the goodness of God and the gift of salvation in Christ. They are, regardless of their claims, unregenerate and need the forgiveness of Jesus Christ found only through repentance and faith.