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Run, don’t walk, from churches that participate in the Koran reading day

Unless, of course, they are reading it to point out why it is wrong.

See The Watchman’s Bagpipes: How Many Ways Can You Say “Heresy”? for an overview.  My guess is that  false teacher and Muslim apologist Chuck “Jesus is not the only way” Currie can’t wait to mock God by reading the Koran in his “church.”  After all, he thinks we have as much to learn from Islam as they do from us (even though they don’t think they have anything to learn from us).  Oh, wait, he doesn’t have a church . . . oh, well, I’m sure he’ll be excited about this day anyway.

Any church participating in this event is sure to be apostate.

[TBC: Even Atheists on occasion recognize that the real threat to them is not biblical Christianity, but Islam. Consider the comments below, prompted by an article from the Religion News Service printed in the Salt Lake Tribune.]
More than 50 Churches Agree to Hold Koran Readings!! [Excerpts]
In the past I have stated I am not religious, but my goal is to help educate and unite Atheists and members of non-Islamic religions against a common enemy. That enemy is Islam. The good news is that our voice against Islam is clearly getting louder, the bad news is that far too many Americans who identify themselves as “Christians” are taking the easy way out and bowing down to Islam, in an effort to avoid a conflict that has been raging for 1400 years.
Muslim Hadith Book 019, Number 4366: “It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”
A conflict in which Christians are clearly losing!
[The author then quotes the article from the Salt Lake Tribune.]
Pulpit pals: Christians, Jews, Muslims plan shared worship
“Religious and human rights activists are asking U.S. churches to invite Jewish and Muslim clergy to their sanctuaries to read from sacred texts next month in an initiative designed to counter anti-Muslim bigotry.
The June 26 initiative, called “Faith Shared: Uniting in Prayer and Understanding,” is co-sponsored by the Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First. Leaders of the two Washington-based groups said the event hopes to demonstrate respect for Islam in the wake of Quran burnings in recent months.
“More than 50 churches in 26 states already have committed to the initiative, including the Washington National Cathedral.
“Tad Stahnke, director of policy and programs for Human Rights First [said] “that Americans do respect religious differences and reject religious bigotry and the demonization of Islam or any other religion’.”
(Adelle Banks, “Pulpit pals: Christians, Jews, Muslims plan shared worship,” Religion News Service, May 17 2011).

False teacher bows to Islam

False teacher Chuck “Jesus is not the only way” Currie rushes to the front of the line to kiss up to Islam, as usual.  See UN Workers Killed After Florida Pastor Burns Qur’an; Terry Jones Dishonors God.  Yeah, because Chuck is all about honoring God, teaching that Jesus is not the only way to salvation, teaching that the Bible is wrong, taking 6 yr. old girls to gay pride parades, being pro-abortion, and so much more.

Clearly, the killing of the United Nations personnel must be condemned in the strongest possible terms.  There is no excuse for this kind of violence.

“No excuse” appears to be the strongest possible terms Chuck could think of.  Wow, that’ll put Islam on its heels.  It is amazing how quickly cowards like Currie ignore the different between these two things:

A. Crackpot burns book.

B. Muslims kill many people, burn churches, etc.

At the same time, Jones must be held morally accountable for fanning the flames of hatred.  Terry Jones, Peter King and Bryan Fischer seek to use religion to divide the people of the world during a time where we need reconciliation and peace.

Does Chuck just copy and paste platitudes like this and those below?  He sounds like a character from Miss Congeniality.

Their actions will only increase the likelihood of terrorism and violence, and put American soldiers and civilians at further risk.  As people of faith, we must stand up against them and proclaim that the Beloved Community is the ideal we seek and reject efforts to divide humanity in the name of the Almighty.

Didn’t Jesus say something about his truths dividing people?  He seemed to be OK with that.

Yes, what Jones did was wrong.  But as long as we have that pesky freedom of religion and freedom of peace thingy people like him can do things like that.  We should ignore the guy.

In the mean time, we should stop bowing down to this false religion and dangerous ideology that is Islam.  People like Chuck are either ignorant or disingenuous by not conceding that Islam isn’t just a religion.  It is a full-blown political ideology bent on world domination.

Muslims love it when false teachers like Chuck bow down to Islam.  In their minds it is more proof of them being the “real” religion.

What do the wolves say about Christian persecution? Not much.

They can’t be bothered with that!  Race-baiting takes up too much of their time.  False teachers like Jim “the Gospel is all about wealth redistribution” Wallis and race-baiting Chuck “Jesus is not the only way” Currie went nuts over Terry Jones, the pastor of a tiny church that had planned to burn the Quran.  Chuck was so proud of his Facebook page encouraging Christians to be unequally yoked with non-believers.

Now whether or not people make Facebook pages over their preferred topics is their choice, but it is interesting that I don’t recall Chuck making a Facebook page over persecuted Christians, such as those noted here — Christians stabbed and beaten in Muslim-dominated Indonesia « Wintery Knight.  Rest assured that the selected outrage of these wolves tilts to the extreme Left.

Will Chuck & Jim & Co. address the “social justice” issue of persecuted Christians?  Oh, no, that would be politically incorrect.  They are too busy playing the race card and wringing their hands over the possibility that Muslims might turn violent over a Quran burning.  Because everyone knows they haven’t been violent to date, right?  Or that even if they were going to get violent they’d need a really, really good reason.

And remember, Chuck is on record saying that we have as much to learn from Islam as they do from Christians and that Jesus is not the only way to salvation, despite what that pesky Bible says over 100 times.  So if Chuck were being consistent he’d tell the Indonesian Christians to convert to Islam.  After all, why suffer beatings for worshiping the “same” God in a different way?  That would be stupid.

“Pluralistic Christians” (an oxymoron if there ever was one) would send out reverse missionaries on the Great De-Commission if they really believed what they said.  As it is, they are just worldly, cowardly fakes.  They give lip service to Jesus but don’t really believe in him.  And they don’t even believe what they say about other religions, otherwise they’d behave differently.

Terry Jones and theologically Liberal Christians: Birds of a feather?

Well, at least when they claim special revelation from God they are similar.

As I read Pyromaniacs: Charismatics and Qu’ran-burning/not-burning Terry Jones, I couldn’t help but think how the planning-to-burn-the-Quran-oops-changed-my-mind Terry Jones is so similar to false teacher Chuck “Jesus is not the only way” Currie and those like him.

I see professing Christians of all types claim to hear from God.  We should all be very careful about speaking for God, especially if you aren’t quoting scripture at the time.

Was Jones off base?  Of course.  People across the spectrum denounced him.  But now he claims God was guiding his steps on that little adventure.  I suppose that was possible in some hyper-technical sense, but the burden of proof is on him to prove it.

But consider the “God is still speaking;” slogan from the United Church of Christ and “reverends” like Chuck Currie.  They use that line to support all sorts of updates from God, such as how Jesus is pro-legalized abortion, pro-oxymoronic “same-sex marriage” and more.  Why should we believe them?

Has anyone else noticed that in their experience God is only “speaking” to theological Liberals in the West like those in the UCC, even though they didn’t believe what God had to say in the Bible to begin with?  Go figure.

Attributing the opposite of what the Bible teaches to God sounds more like blaspheming the Holy Spirit to me.

Was Jones wrong?  Yep.  But nowhere near as wrong as Currie, the UCC and other theological Liberals who claim that God is telling them the opposite of what He revealed in the Bible.  Run, don’t walk, from false teachers like them.

False teacher inconsistency

False teachers like Jim “the Gospel is all about wealth redistribution” Wallis and race-baiting Chuck “Jesus is not the only way” Currie are being inconsistent in their treatment of religious freedom, such as in Quran Burning is a Sacrilegious Slap in the Face of Christ – Jim Wallis – God’s Politics Blog.

Of course the Quran burning by a tiny church (though probably not as tiny as Chuck’s) is ridiculous and should be discouraged.  But why was it great for Muslims to mock the U.S. with the Ground Zero Mosque and bad for this guy to criticize Islam?   Are they for free speech or not?

Why is it OK to criticize this Florida pastor but not the Muslims building the Ground Zero Mosque? Conservatives are being consistent and criticizing both.  Liberals like Jim and Chuck are being inconsistent and only criticizing one side and trying to prevent criticism of the other.

Why not use this as an example to tell the world why the Christian response (pointing out to the Muslims why their Mosque is grossly insensitive but not restricting their free speech rights) is so superior to the Islamic response to burning a book (“kill lots of people now, whether they were involved in the Quran burning or not!”).

Ann Coulter explains it well:

In response to Gen David Petraeus’ denunciation of Florida pastor Terry Jones’ right to engage in a symbolic protest of the 9/11 attacks by burning copies of the Quran this Sept. 11, President Obama said: “Let me be clear: As a citizen, and as president, I believe that members of the Dove World Outreach Center have the same right to freedom of speech and religion as anyone else in this country.”

Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida lauded Obama’s remarks, saying America is “a place where you’re supposed to be able to practice your religion without the government telling you you can’t.”

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg called Obama’s words a “clarion defense of the freedom of religion” — and also claimed that he had recently run into a filthy jihadist who actually supported the Quran-burning!

Keith Olbermann read the poem “First they came …” on air in defense of the Quran-burners, nearly bringing himself to tears at his own profundity.

No wait, my mistake. This is what liberals said about the ground zero mosque only five minutes ago when they were posing as First Amendment absolutists. Suddenly, they’ve developed amnesia when it comes to the free-speech right to burn a Quran.

Weirdly, conservatives who opposed building the mosque at ground zero are also against the Quran burning