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The sad and confused “Christian” Left

The “Christian” Left lives and preaches a weird false dichotomy, where either you are in a “church” like Democrat Fred Phelps’ Westboro Baptist or you are in an apostate “Christian” Left” organization.  It never occurs to them that leaving one bad church for another bad church might not be a wise move.

The real church celebrates Jesus as divine.  The “Christian” Left explicitly denies that. One of the false teachers who founded the https://www.facebook.com/TheChristianLeft site is Mark Sandlin, who explicitly and proudly denies the deity of Jesus and the Trinity.

The real church celebrates Jesus as the only way to salvation.  After all, it is “only” taught 100+ times in the word of God. But wolves like false teacher Chuck “Jesus is not the only way but He sure is a bigot” Currie of the UCC deny that and say we have as much to learn from Muslims about Jesus as they do from us.

The real church preaches the real Gospel:

1 Corinthians 15:1–5 Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.

The “Christian” Left teaches a different gospel.  Just ask Jim “the Gospel is all about wealth redistribution” Wallis.

The real church seeks to protect the weak, love their neighbor — regardless of location! — and care for the least of these.  The “Christian” Left are pro-abortion extremists, even defending infanticide (aka “partial-birth abortion”) and wanting to increase abortions via taxpayer-funding.

The real church teaches the truth about God’s design for sex.  The “Christian” Left supports “same-sex marriage” and has nearly identical views to the world. It shows who their real father is.

1 John 2:15-16 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world.

Jude 4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

The “Christian” Left is just politics-disguised-as-religion, advancing their pro-abortion and pro-LGBTQX extremism at every turn.  They only refer to Jesus when they are taking verses out of context to support their anti-Christ worldview.

The real church preaches Christ and him crucified for our sins and rising again.  Hallelujah!

Run, don’t walk, from “Christian” Left organizations and false teachers.  Don’t believe their lies, especially the one about how there are only two options for “church.”  Out of the frying pan and into the fire is still a bad strategy.  There is a better way!

The “Christian” Left believes Jesus is God! Except when they don’t! Which is all the time!

Please see the Exposing the The “Christian” Left for more like this!

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The self-parody of the “Christian” Left continues.  I wrote about them last week in The self-parody of the “Christian” Left (are you picking up on the theme?).  Then, to defend themselves, they posted this on their Facebook page, insisting that they accepted the divinity of Jesus.

Some of our fundie critics like to accuse us of denying the divinity of Christ. We can’t figure out if they’re purposely lying or just misled. We do no such thing. No one understands the Trinity. No one. We do not deny the divinity of Christ. In the past we’ve posted articles that attempt to analyze which aspects of Jesus were true man and which aspects were true God. Apparently the fundies freaked out about that. That’s generally what happens when they are forced to think outside their template.

Now how could we have possibly drawn the conclusion that they don’t think Jesus is God.  Maybe — just maybe! — it is because one of their leaders, Mark Sandlin, wrote this: Jesus Is Not My God.

I am a believer. Mostly.

I believe that there is probably a god — something bigger than us. I have a very hard time believing that there’s not something larger than humanity.

I mean, seriously? We are the best the universe has to offer? At least, as far as we know? That seems a bit egotistical to me, not to mention a bit unfortunate for the Universe. Ultimately, I don’t buy it.

I also believe there might not be a god — or, at the very least, I frequently feel the absence of God.

Even King David, felt the absence of God. It’s all over the Psalms. I really don’t feel that bad about doubting. I feel like it’s normal.

That’s why I think of myself as an agnostic Christian. I believe there is a God. I also accept that there might not be.

“I believe; help me in my disbelief.”

When I worship, I worship that God who is all-at-once bigger than me and might not be at all.

It’s the same god I believe Jesus was trying to teach us about.

. . .

For me, Jesus not being God is a good thing – a very good thing.

 

He also has a post called, “No Trinity for me.”  So, yeah, I think it is fair to say they deny the divinity of Jesus.  I was not lying or misled.  I was quoting them directly.  I’m sure I’ll get an apology message shortly . . .

Same goes for their denial that Jesus is the only way to salvation.  Their other leader, false teacher Chuck “Jesus is not the only way but He sure is a bigot” Currie, preaches entire sermons on why Jesus is not the only way to salvation.

There is a reason they don’t let Christians post on their page.  It is too easy to expose them, just by quoting the titles of their posts!

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Bonus: The comment below from uber-commenter Danny got him banned from the “Christian” Left Facebook site.  Note that they didn’t delete a comment last week that said, “Take your Bible verses and shove them up your ass.  Any guesses as to why I put quotes around “Christian” when I refer to the “Christian” Left?

Dear friends. Something is wrong with this world. This site says that the problem is right wingers. But government cannot fix what is wrong. The problem with this world is sin. If there were no sin, this site, nor political parties, nor right or left wing politics, would be needed. The problem is that all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God, and the BIble tells us that the wrath of God is resting on all who do not repent and are born again. I urge all who visit here to read their Bibles. I suggest starting with the book of John. Pray to God. Ask him to have mercy on your soul. Ask him to reveal himself to you as you read his Holy Word. Eternity hangs in the balance dear friends.

 

Leftists cause prison populations to swell then wring their hands over it

Leftists often remind me of Homer Simpson, when he says things like this.

To Alcohol! The cause of… and solution to… all of life’s problems.

Why?  Because they put policies in place that cause problems (just like alcohol can) then they think they have the solution to the problems as well — even though they are just more of the same and/or new things that make the situation deteriorate further.

Example: False teacher Mark Sandlin was lamenting the size of U.S. prison populations in If You Only See One Video This Week, It Should Be This One.  I share his concern, but he thinks the solution is to just watch a video and care more about it.  I’d rather actually do something!

My comment there:

I wonder how many people cheering this video do prison ministry?  I’ve been going into prisons with the love and truth of Christ for 8 years and have found it to be very rewarding and effective.  Of course, we take the real Gospel and not Leftist theology, which is why it works so well.  Not only does it transform lives, families and the prison culture (which is why wardens love the ministry), it dramatically REDUCES RECIDIVISM.  That means less broken families, less victims, less costs to society, etc.

In addition to supporting prison ministries, if you really want to reduce prison populations, stop supporting policies that promote fatherlessness.  I know countless murderers, drug dealers, thieves, addicts, etc. and over 90% of them have one thing in common: Absent or terrible fathers (usually absent).  One example of hundreds: If your Mom’s latest live-in lover views you as a threat and convinces her to put you on the street at 14, there is a good chance you’ll end up in prison.  That isn’t an excuse, of course, but it helps explain why it happens.
The “war on poverty” has destroyed the black family.  They used to have HIGHER rates of staying married than whites.
Also see Charles Barkley’s latest comments about the black culture.  Any culture, regardless of skin color, that uses peer pressure to discourage hard work and education is going to suffer mightily.  Calling people racists for pointing out obvious truths like that is cowardly and counter-productive.
Oh, and of course, stop pushing the anti-Jesus LGBTQX agenda that further mocks the importance of the family.

Mark Sandlin = false teacher

Mark Sandlin is a wolf in sheep’s clothing who often blogs at Jim “the Gospel is all about wealth redistribution” Wallis’ Sojourners blog.  A friend sent me a link to Jesus Is Not My God, where Sandlin loudly and proudly claims not to believe in the deity of Christ.  He is welcome to his opinions, of course, and I respect his right of religious freedom.  We even have a precise theological term for people like him: Non-Christians.

I’ll start with one of his closing comments, because it typifies the approach of these “progressive Christians.”

I’m not trying to say I am right and others are wrong.

I find that kind of statement as revolting as his claims to be a Christian.  It is a completely wimpy, passive-aggressive postmodern lie.  He has a pulpit, blogs and Podcasts in place to teach these things, so he obviously thinks he is right.  Why not grow a pair and own it?

This is the first post in a series called:“This Collar Is Too Tight: Heresies From a Southern Minister.” Most institutionalized Churches define who is and who isn’t a Christian far too narrowly. There is an increasingly long list of tenets to which a person must dogmatically adhere in order to be in the club. The thing is… I don’t believe a whole lot of them. I even find many of them to be biblically inaccurate.

That’s an odd thing for him to say, because he sits in judgment of the Bible and decides for himself what “really” belongs.

I’ve decided to address them one by one because I’ve discovered that there are a lot of people who feel the same way — even other ministers.

The fact that there are many false teachers — especially within his circles — proves nothing.

I hope that this will give us all a little support and encouragement as we try to cling to our Christian-ness while others try to take it from us.

We aren’t trying to take anything way.  But words mean things, and based on the Bible and thousand of years of history it is incorrect to call people like him Christians.

I am a believer. Mostly.

I believe that there is probably a god — something bigger than us. I have a very hard time believing that there’s not something larger than humanity.

Wow, that’s bold apologetics.  Preach on, “minister.”

 . . . When I worship, I worship that God who is all-at-once bigger than me and might not be at all.

It’s the same god I believe Jesus was trying to teach us about.

In calling God “Father,” Jesus tried to teach us about the nurturing nature of this god. In saying that he and the “Father” were one he was trying to teach us about how we are all one in this god-thing that is larger than us. In telling us that in loving other people (everyone) we were loving God, he was trying to teach us about the connectedness of us all being created in the image of God.

I am a Christian because Jesus, for me, is the teacher who best helps me understand this god-thing.

How can one claim to be a Christ-follower and reject so much of what He taught?

When he worshiped, he worshiped that same god.

He did not worship himself.

Jesus never called himself God.

Here the cheating starts in earnest.  He’ll ignore what he doesn’t like from the synoptic Gospels, then dismiss the Gospel of John and the rest of the biblical claims about his divinity with a wave of his hand.  He starts with the assumption that the Bible isn’t the word of God, and concludes that the Bible isn’t the word of God.  Convenient.

Read through Matthew, Mark and Luke. You won’t find him saying it. Sure, there are a few places where you can interpret what Jesus says to possibly suggest he is God, but it isn’t stated outright.

Maybe if he didn’t go to the text with his preconceptions he’d come to a different conclusion.

You have to ask yourself: Something that important, don’t you think he might have mentioned it? And, if he did mention it, don’t you think somebody would have decided it was important enough to jot it down?

He did.

The Gospel of John does have Jesus mentioning the whole being God thing – a lot. The difference is a bit striking, isn’t it? The first three Gospels, all written before the Gospel of John, without Jesus saying he is God… and then John, after many years have passed, with Jesus saying he is God.

Does anyone else think it sounds like dogma slipped in there during those in-between years?

Thus begins the “progressive Christian” approach which isn’t new at all.  There are countless solid answers to objections like that but Sandlin doesn’t even pretend to have attempted to understand them.

Actually, yes, they do. Most modern scholars agree that John has some new theological perspective into its accounting of the life of Jesus. It may or may not be right, but because of the other three Gospels, I’m going with the idea that it is probably an addition.

Translation: “Most modern scholars” = “people I agreed with when I went opinion shopping.”  So Sandlin knows more than the early church?  Indeed.

For me, Jesus not being God is a good thing – a very good thing.

If what I hope to get from Jesus is an understanding of how to be the people God created us to be and to develop a closer relationship and understanding of God through that, it is much more helpful to see a person who is actually a person and not a god doing it. It’s hopeful even.

This “minister” doesn’t even understand the hypostatic union.

. . . I am saying that if you, too, believe Jesus is not your God, no matter what people tell you, you can still call yourself a Christian.

The Bible, the early church, common sense and 2,000 years of church history say otherwise.

Sandlin does what most pagans do, only they are more honest than he is and don’t make a living off their lies.  He finds a handful of verses he likes and claims to be a Christian.  But he doesn’t even hold to his professed belief of just believing Matthew, Mark and Luke.  Even those have Jesus speaking of Hell extensively, and Sandlin certainly couldn’t support that. And Jesus said that marriage, from the beginning, was just a union of a man and a woman.  Sandlin actively denounces biblical sexuality so once again he disagrees with Jesus.

The “Christian” Left doesn’t agree with the beginning of the Gospels (virgin birth, claims of divinity (John 1)). Or the end (physical resurrection). Or the middle (miracles, Hell, teaching against “same-sex marriage” and evolution, claims to be the only way to salvation, claims of divinity, etc.).

Yet they claim to follow Jesus. They reflexively add and take away from scripture. Wolves like Mark “Jesus is not my God” Sandlin deny things like the virgin birth, which is clearly taught in scripture, then make up things about the Magi tipping off Joseph about Herod’s plans.

Here are a couple of their life (er, uh, death) verses:

Luke 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.

Jude 4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Run, don’t walk, from the “Christian” Left and false teachers like Mark Sandlin.

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Another bad “top 10 list” from Sojourners

The blog of Jim “the Gospel is all about wealth redistribution” Wallis often runs these “top ten lists” of things Christians shouldn’t say or do, such as 10 Things You Can’t SAY While Following Jesus by Mark Sandlin.  Sandlin is a “progressive Christian,” who predictably gives a list of 10 judgments on others — including his judgment on others who judge!  This time it came in at #4:

 4) It’s okay to judge.

Recently, there has been a rash of Christian bloggers defending their right to judge. I guess it’s a thing. All the cool bloggers are doing it.

Of course it is OK to judge in a proper manner (e.g., John 7:24).  Sandlin judges all the time.  Only he’s the one violating scripture by doing it hypocritically.

Then there is this bit of nonsense saying that if some Bible had a bad translation of a word that we should never appeal to it as the source of truth.  Seems like something a non-Christian would say . . .

3) Because the Bible tells me so (or “it’s in the Bible”).

The King James Bible tells me there are unicorns – 9 times.

I’m sorry, I got distracted. What was it you were telling me about using the Bible to prove a fact?

Satan and Mark Sandlin agree: “Did God really say . . .?”  Yeah, definitely don’t go to God’s word for the final answer on something.  And Sandlin displays his hypocrisy again with this entry.  Where did he get his [bad interpretation of] God’s views on judging?  Like most Leftist Christians, he considers the Bible to be authoritative on the parts he agrees with.

Wallis and Sandlin are not only enemies of the real Gospel, they are unoriginal and repetitive enemies of the Gospel.