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The “noviewers” are back, attacking Darwin’s Doubt without reading it

I won a contest by coining a phrase over at Uncommon Descent a couple years ago: Noviewer — Someone who writes a review on something he hasn’t read or seen. Apparently some people haven’t evolved enough to realize how it impacts their credibility when they lie to support their worldview.

Looks like the noviewers are out in force with the release of Stephen Meyer’s Darwin’s Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the Case for Intelligent Design. There are lots of 1 star reviews at Amazon already and the content makes it obvious that they haven’t read it. These close-minded people really, really don’t like to hear alternate views or to let others have the opportunity to hear them. I wish Amazon required reviewers to pass a brief quiz before posting about controversial books.

Here’s an example of a noviewer:

Over at Evolution News & Views, Casey Luskin asks, could P. Z. Myers even possibly have read Steve Meyer’s Darwin’s Doubt before writing a long essay trashing it?:

Now, Darwin’s Doubt runs to 413 pages, excluding endnotes and bibliography. Neither the book’s publisher, HarperOne, nor its author sent Matzke a prepublication review copy. Did Matzke in fact read its 400+ pages and then write his 9400+ word response — roughly 30 double-spaced pages — in little more than a day?

Perhaps, but a more likely hypothesis is that he wrote the lion’s share of the review before the book was released based upon what he presumed it would say. A reviewer who did receive a prepublication copy, University of Pittsburgh physicist David Snoke, writes:

A caution: this is a tome that took me two weeks to go through in evening reading, and I am familiar with the field. Like the classic tome Gödel, Escher, Bach, it simply can’t be gone through quickly. I was struck that the week it was released, within one day of shipping, there were already hostile reviews up on Amazon. Simply impossible that they could have read this book in one night.

I’ve started Darwin’s Doubt and it is amazing so far. The preface alone is worth the money. It is interesting how the critics of Meyer’s last book so thoroughly miss his points. Perhaps it is because they don’t actually take the time to read them?

Also see Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design by Stephen C. Meyer.

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Nancy Leigh DeMoss Endorsing Chalk Circles? Mercy. — What is it with otherwise-orthodox people embracing these pagan fads?

I have never bothered to address the problems with the book The Circle Maker, because the whole concept of “circle making” was simply so patently pagan and ridiculous on the face of it that I assumed it would be obvious to any Christian how unbiblical this book was.  When Christian apologist Chris Rosebrough and Pastor Tim Challies both thoroughly exposed the theological issues with the book (links below), I continued to assume this was a “no-brainer” for most Christians. Sadly however, I am getting more and more emails from people saying that their church leaders are recommending The Circle Maker, doing a Bible study with it, passing it out, etc. So just in case you have not heard about this book, let me try to fill in the gaps: The Circle Maker is a book authored by Pastor Mark Batterson (Wash DC), in which Batterson teaches that we should literally draw circles (with chalk as the suggested implement) around our dreams and pray them into completion. . . .

Well, as a former pagan, I’m just telling all of you right now, if someone comes into my church and starts getting out the chalk and talking about drawing circles around things, I am not walking, I am RUNNING for the door. And yes, I know the argument is probably something along the lines of, Well this helps me underscore my prayers to God. My response: Really? And this is where, exactly, in Scripture? And why should a Christian feel the need for a ritual? Why can’t we just pray, simply, with the faith of a child? My friends, spiritual rituals are for pagans, not Christians.

Also see Why are mature men of the faith suddenly seeming to go off the narrow road of orthodoxy and saying or doing wacky things?  C’mon, people, let’s finish strong!  Don’t feel like you have to invent something new.

The Worst Piece of Legislation in American History — It is hard to imagine, but the amnesty bill may be worse than Obamacare.  There is no way those voting for it could have read it all.  I’d love to know what blackmail or bribes took place to get Republicans to vote for it.  Surely they can’t be so stupid to think that this will help them in elections, right?

The only good news is that it should make future votes easier.  Anyone supporting this travesty should be voted out of office.

Former atheist turned Christian through Dawkin’s website continues strong faith in God — He seemed pretty devoted to Dawkins but was turned off by Dawkins’ fans and how they interacted with a minister.  I’ve had them try to attack this site before.  They are quite charming.

I enjoyed this charitable debate: Jason Lisle debates Hugh Ross on the age of the Earth

Debt isn’t required — Some good challenges on how to get — and stay — debt free.

Good news: Exodus International is gone, but Overcomers Network and others are taking its place, and in a much better way.

Does that Gibson Guitar raid make more sense now? — This case alone is evidence of Obama illegally abusing his power to punish his enemies.

An editorial at Investors Business Daily may wind up being filed under how did I miss this one? Following the recent revelations of cases where the administration appears to have used the muscle of the federal government to go after its political enemies, IBD takes a walk down memory lane to the strange case of Gibson Guitars and the federal raids on their facilities for alleged illegal importing of exotic woods used in their products. They reach one provocative conclusion.

The inexplicable raid nearly two years ago on a guitar maker for using allegedly illegal wood that its competitors also used was another targeting by this administration of its political enemies…

Interestingly, one of Gibson’s leading competitors is C.F. Martin & Co. According to C.F. Martin’s catalog, several of their guitars contain “East Indian Rosewood,” which is the exact same wood in at least 10 of Gibson’s guitars. So why were they not also raided and their inventory of foreign wood seized?

A great question to ask for years to come: Question for pro-choice Dems: If gun control is worth doing if it saves just one life, how about limiting late-term abortions?  It works against gun control and for the pro-life ethic.

The Backwards Trial: A George Zimmerman Prosecution Primer — A must read if you’ve followed this case at all.  The racism industry is alive and well.

Fathers don’t mother — It is bizarre how controversial such a simple and obvious statement has become.  This society is working overtime as Romans 1 poster children in suppressing the truth in unrighteousness.

Fault Tolerance a greater foe to Darwinism than Irreducible Complexity — Just another flaw in the Darwinian philosophy that most of its cheerleaders aren’t even aware of.

Irreducibly Complex systems are those systems (man-made or otherwise), where removal of critical core parts results in malfunction.

By way of contrast, fault tolerant systems allow removal of parts or entire sub-systems, yet intended function is still retained. Removable parts or subsystems in fault tolerant architectures are also contrasted with useless parts which serve no purpose. Like spare tires, removable parts in a fault tolerant systems can still serve a purpose even if never used.. . .If selection has problems preserving fault tolerance, why should it construct it in the first place?

Don’t miss Dear Cecile Richards: MLK did not support black genocide.  People who kill unwanted babies for a living don’t mind distorting reality.  I’ve also seen radical pro-abortionist, false teaching, race-baiting Chuck “Jesus is not the only way” Currie pretend that MLK was pro-abortion.

Dear Cecile Richards,

Please stop abusing civil rights history to justify your present-day killing fields. Martin Luther King Jr’s memory is not a dummy that you can manipulate like a ventriloquist. Although he regrettably accepted the inaugural Margaret Sanger Award from the nation’s largest birth control chain in 1966, he wasn’t praising the slaughter of millions that Planned Parenthood was plotting to make central to its mission.

The nation’s abortionist-in-chief tweeting about Juneteenth, a celebration of the abolition of the dehumanizing institution of slavery, is like China celebrating freedom of speech. “No one is free until all are free” apparently doesn’t apply to the millions of innocent human beings Planned Parenthood grinds in industrial garbage disposals, flushes down drains or stuffs into biohazard waste bags.

As with everything else with your billion-dollar empire, one has to put things into a truthful context. In 1966, abortion wasn’t legal. MLK wasn’t praising the dismembering and suctioning of defenseless human beings. He, like many others during the 60s when Planned Parenthood feigned advocacy of strong families, was duped by an industry birthed in eugenic racism, that preached overpopulation mythology, demanded discriminatory immigration policies, and promoted forced sterilizations through its state eugenics boards. By the way, Elaine Riddick sends her love. Thanks to Planned Parenthood, she was one of over 60,000 people sterilized as part of your organization’s “proud” history. If you want to accurately depict history, Maafa21 is a great resource.

I’m the gym guy, not the farm guy, but I still liked this.

This is a simple, true and excellent point.  Perhaps the West should ask the resident Muslims to lobby for minority rights in Muslim countries before demanding more things here.

Superman combo

Random Superman things . . .

1. I see very few movies, so I’m not sure if I’ll see the Man of Steel.  But it does sound really good.  The bad guys are evolutionists — how sweet is that?!

[T]his Man of Steel movie is one of the most spiritually symbolic and Messianic-image-packed treatments ever made about this character. Here, Clark Kent even comes to understand—at the age of 33, no less—his responsibility to step up, face off with and destroy an ultimate evil that threatens all mankind.

But that’s at the end. At the climax. All through this film dialogue and images hint at connections between Superman and Jesus. Several people, from Jor-El to Jonathan to Zod’s female second, Faora-Ul, talk to Clark about his ability (or lack of ability) to save the people on his adopted planet. Superman levitates with his arms spread in a cross-like form on several occasions. When he goes to his church to ask a priest for advice, the camera’s eye frames a stained-glass representation of Christ over the young Clark’s shoulder. The priest tells him, “Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith first. The trust part comes later.”

After Clark rescues a bus full of children, a kid’s mother states, “This was an act of God!” Clark asks his dad, “Did God do this to me?” When Lara worries about her infant son’s safety on Earth, Jor-El assures her, “He’ll be a god to them.” Bad guy Kryptonians tell Superman that they will win because “evolution always wins.”

2. When digital photography and editing came out in the late 90’s I had fun with the girls and with Junior Achievement classes by taking pictures of them with their arms over their heads and then putting them in 8×10 Superman photos like this (except with the kids, instead of Wishbone as a puppy).  They had no idea why they were posed like that until they saw the pictures.  Good times.

SuperWishbone

3. Enjoy this Stephen Crowder video about how Superman would have to act if he were in a union.

Another conversation with an athiest

I got some animated comments from an atheist last month on the Should we ban all religions? Gee, can’t think of any downsides to that plan post, so I thought I’d share my responses here.
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Hi — thanks for visiting and commenting. I hope you feel better after that! You have been misinformed on many topics so out of kindness I am going to offer you some facts and logic to consider. I hope you weigh them carefully, as eternity is a mighty long time to be wrong.

haha, after reading this…the author sounds very scared of those ad campaigns! powerful and true stuff eh?? Made you worry that something like that might convince the majority of intelligent and critical thinking people what religion really is…a whole lot of crap made up by evil, twisted, deluded, desert nomads to brainwash and control people! and then where would your fairy tales be?? They really would be part of history!

If you studied history you’d know that there have been countless brilliant, critical thinking Christians, just as there are today.

If you used critical thinking skills yourself you’d know that your atheism gives you no grounding for morality, so any claims of something being evil or twisted would be meaningless opinions on your part.

I think Christianity will be the first religion to disappear (trust me 1 day in the future science will win the argument as science always evolves and changes with new evidence…religion only has 2000+ year old books to reference with very very outdated teachings and beliefs…flat earth etc.)

I see you bought into the flat earth myth. Please do some research and see who held that view, then read the Bible and note how the “desert nomads” knew it was round.

The Bible is not a science textbook, but any of your teachers ever point out how the Bible unequivocally states that the universe came into being at a point in time, just like science shows? Did they explain how the author of Genesis knew that there was a vast number of stars, unlike the ~1,100 that so many other ancient people thought?

Bad news for you: Since its inception, critics have been saying that Christianity will die. See Acts 6 (33 When they heard this, they were enraged and wanted to kill them. 34 But a Pharisee in the council named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law held in honor by all the people, stood up and gave orders to put the men outside for a little while. 35 And he said to them, “Men of Israel, take care what you are about to do with these men. 36 For before these days Theudas rose up, claiming to be somebody, and a number of men, about four hundred, joined him. He was killed, and all who followed him were dispersed and came to nothing. 37 After him Judas the Galilean rose up in the days of the census and drew away some of the people after him. He too perished, and all who followed him were scattered. 38 So in the present case I tell you, keep away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or this undertaking is of man, it will fail; 39 but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You might even be found opposing God!” So they took his advice, 40 and when they had called in the apostles, they beat them and charged them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. 41 Then they left the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the name. 42 And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ.)

They were wrong! Hundreds of years of intense persecution from the Roman Empire didn’t stop us, so neither will you.

they are fakes basically, pretend to believe in a God just so they fit in, especially all the American religious fanatics! Its all about money for those lot!

Yes, just as the Bible predicts many times, there are fake Christians. Hey, we agree!

Scarily the only religion i see surviving the longest (until they set off a nuke and end the world) is Islam!! Because most Muslims live in poor countries and struggle to survive everyday! and have nothing to make their lives worthwhile accept for religion and the promise that when they die they will have everything they didnt have in this life! ..if they do as their religion asks of them! Christianity is too mild nowadays! They don’t force people to believe and kill them if they dont believe anymore!

You have some valid points there. Islam started, spread and continues to this day because of violence. Christianity spread under persecution, and any violence done in Jesus’ name is done by people who disobey his teachings.

Also in your awful article, you mention only religious ppl do charity work…so if we could ban religion, would those same ppl then give up on charity work?? if so, what does that they about those ppl?? they only help because they are scared of god?? how pathetic and fake is that!

Some people might do good deeds because they are afraid of God, but Christianity teaches the opposite. No amount of good deeds will get you into Heaven. We do good things because we have been made spiritually alive by the Holy Spirit and out of gratitude and obedience to Jesus.

I think if we banned religion then those charity workers, if they are genuine ppl, would continue their great work! Also i have a few atheist friends who do lots of work for charity, 1 is in fact employed full time so your statements are false…also the real stats are that religious ppl have more divorces and commit more adultery than atheists! FACT!

People who attend church regularly and read the Bible are far less likely to get divorced. And have fun banning Islam. And you have no grounding to call any work “great.”

There is no evidence for Jesus either! You do know that the story of Jesus has been used in much older religions than Christianity? Oh wait a minute, they dont tell you that do they? lol! Just like those guys trying to sell a product, the people who MADE UP Christianity worked out what stories capture the peoples imagination and then play on that! They would have know about the STORY (as in fiction!!) of a character who is born of a virgin, 3 wise men, can do miracles, son of god and all the rest of it and all they did was change the name to a popular name of the day…Jesus and then…they had a new, updated version of a popular religious teaching in previous popular religions!

That is a common Internet meme spread by gullible people. Too bad you bought it. I addressed the copycat fallacy here.  If you just a little research you’ll find that you have been wildly misinformed. Then, if you are the critical thinker you claim to be, you’ll wonder what else they lied to you about.

Regarding facts of Jesus, you couldn’t be more mistaken. Even atheist historical scholars agree on something we refer to as the “minimal facts.”

Summary of the “minimal facts” approach: Nearly 100% of historical scholars from 1975 – present agree with the following statements:

  • Jesus really lived and was killed on a Roman cross.
  • Jesus’ disciples believed He appeared to them.
  • Jesus’ brother, James, went from being a pre-crucifixion skeptic to a post-crucifixion church leader.
  • The Apostle Paul believed Jesus appeared to him and he wrote most of the books attributed to him, including Romans, I & II Corinthians, Philemon and others. He converted from persecuting Christians to being the greatest evangelist ever, despite nearly constant challenges, persecution and ultimately dying for his faith.
  • 75% of the same scholars agree that the tomb was empty.

None of the alternative theories can be true in light of these facts. The physical resurrection of Jesus best accounts for these facts.

Also why do all you religious idiots believe things like…God appeared to some bloke 2000 years ago? Yet if someone said that nowadays..they would be locked up and sent to a mental hospital?? whats the difference? the difference is that back then, ppl believed ANYTHING!!! nowadays ppl would say prove it?? and of course that mentally ill person wouldnt be able to!

Please see the “minimal facts” information just mentioned. The more pertinent question is, “Why don’t fools like you believe there is a God?” The answer is in Romans 1:

Romans 1:18–20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Deep down you know there is a God but you suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

It always comes down to evidence! I am 100% willing to believe in a God or Gods IF God or science can prove it? If not then why would I believe something on pure faith??? Doesnt make any sense! religious ppl believe in religion because they want it to be true!!! nobody who is religious believes in religion due to evidence after not wanting to believe in it!

We have tons of evidence, but apparently your teachers and friends have hidden it from you. Your demand for science to prove it is fallacious, as you can’t even use science to prove you should only trust science. Also, you don’t use science, which addresses material things, to prove God, who is an immaterial being. That is some more logic for you ;-).

Oh, and without God as a foundation, you have no reason to explain why you should trust your reason. That’s another circular reference.

You also commit the fallacy of thinking we are anti-science. We love science. Look at the history of science and see all the Christians! It was their accurate belief that God was a God of order that led them to study how He made the universe.

Think about this…how many religious ppl look at the evidence and then say…i have to believe because of the evidence? ZERO!!! (for one its a sin to question your god so therefore you are not allowed to look for evidence!) and how many ppl turn from religion when they look at the evidence? MANY!!!

Actually, many people do, but you haven’t done much research. Check out this former atheist who wrote Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels.

I hope my kids or grand kids live in a world without religion as then all you would have is good people and bad people…you wouldnt have good people doing bad things in the name of religion and bad people! too much evil then!! Or the very least, religion is treated like santa or the easter bunny, as in everyone knows its made up but due to tradition celebrate it! and for those who are still brainwashed and have to believe in an old man, sitting on the clouds…let them believe as long as that doesnt affect anyone else and they dont do anything in the name of their religion!
PEACE!!!

Again, since you deny God out of your rebellion you have no grounding to call anything good or evil.

And here is one of your biggest problems: If your worldview is really true then your beloved “universe came into being from nothing, life came from non-life, Darwinian evolution did the rest” premise means that it caused all religions. Got that? Your macro-evolution would have been 100.000% responsible for my conversion from atheism to Christianity and my trust in the evidence for the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. What else could it have been? Your macro-evolution would also be responsible for Islam and every other religion. So why are you so angry about it?!

All the best to you. I hope you are half as serious as you claim to be about wanting facts and logic. If you really seek God on his terms you will find him. But if you stay in your rebellion then you will spend an eternity in Hell paying for your sins.

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The Mess of the Message: Denying Christ On The Printed Page — I’ve written before about serious problems with The Message, but this post added a host of new and serious issues.  Also note how it removes a reference to homosexuality and inserts a “green” passage.  Friendly reminder: It isn’t a Bible.  In many places it is the opposite of the Bible.

People have lost their minds.  Remember that these are educators coming up with these things.

Boy Suspended Just for SAYING the Word Gun

Campus bans guns, tells people to nod at attackers

The Affordable Care Act — and by affordable, we mean more expensive — They were caught lying.  Again.  Although we didn’t have to wait until now to know it.

COULD A CHRISTIAN BAKER WHO REFUSED TO MAKE WEDDING CAKE FOR A GAY COUPLE REALLY GO TO JAIL? — Why don’t they try this with Muslim bakers?

This is bizarre “tolerance” of Liberals:

  1. It is bad to judge. [What they claim Conservatives do and what they themselves do non-stop.]
  2. It is good to judge others for judging. [What Liberals do.]
  3. It is very bad to judge others for their hypocrisy of judging others for judging.  [What Liberals don’t like for us to point out.]

While Denying Tea Party, IRS Grants Tax-Exempt Status to Radical Leftists and Terrorists

Ergun Caner Cover-Up — This is such a sad case.  The guy was caught lying over and over and too many Christian leaders, churches and schools looked the other way or helped him cover his tracks.  The documentation is very thorough, even though he is working hard to cover it up.  If the guy had repented it would be different, but he shows no remorse.

Profiles in Countermoonbattery: Ondray Harris — here’s a great guy who quit when he was told not to hire any conservatives or whites.  We need more courage like that.  Oh, and he’s black.

The Contempt of PZ Myers — He really, really opposes schools that teach critical thinking.

None of the above keeps PZ from frothing at the mouth that: “There is no controversy!” Evolution happened…get over it. Really, PZ, “no controversy”? Guess PZ’s been too busy ranting and raving about ID and “Creationism” to keep up with what is actually happening in his own field of biology. Let’s see, can anyone name one aspect of evolution and its supposed mechanisms that isn’t hotly debated and controversial even among evolutionary biologists? Pick one – common descent, natural selection, gene transfer, phylogentics, gene duplication, genetic drift, mutation, etc etc – not one single supposed driving engine of evolution is uncontroversial within evolutionary biology itself. It continually amazes me that every single aspect of Darwinian evolution is hotly debated and controversial, yet the Darwinian faithful, like PZ pound their fists on their desks yelling “evolution is a fact, Fact, FACT!” What is telling, is how rabidly PZ and others of his ilk want to keep students in public schools from ever knowing about or even hearing about such controversies.

Master Sergeant Punished for Serving Chick-fil-A at Party

DOMA is the law of the land, but the rogue Obama Regime refuses to enforce it.

A year later, the Master Sergeant is still bogged down in a legal battle. The lesson is passed down from Obama through the military as clearly as it is through the IRS: do not say, do, or even think anything that a liberal might not like, or you will suffer consequences.

A few more examples:

One service member received a severe reprimand for expressing his faith’s religious position about homosexuality in a personal religious blog.

A chaplain was relieved of his command over a military chapel because he could not allow same-sex weddings to take place in the chapel.

And a chaplain who asked senior military officers whether religious liberty would be protected in the wake of the repeal of the law against open homosexual behavior in the military was told to “get in line” or resign.

The world has seen other governments that forcibly repressed Christianity. But not even the Soviet Union attempted to impose reverence for sexual perversion. It wasn’t sufficiently morally depraved.

Pay no attention to the men behind the curtain

See Evolutionist: Let’s Admit it, We Don’t Fully Understand How Evolution Works — We live in interesting times, where the average person — saturating in a lifetime of Darwinist propaganda in education, media and entertainment — is still defending an evolutionary model that the professionals know is false.  Oh, the professionals haven’t given up on their godless worldview, but they know that their paradigms have been shattered and they are desperately trying to find another explanation that leaves out a creator.

On this 60th anniversary of the discovery of the DNA double helix, Ball reviews a few of the recent findings that have rebuked the evolution narrative that random mutations created the biological world. Unfortunately Ball fails to take his own advice and ends up doing precisely what he advises other evolutionists against—whitewashing the science.

For instance, evolutionists have had to resort to the explanation that rather than mutations tweaking the DNA’s protein-coding genes to create or improve protein functions, those mutations must have sometimes tweaked regulatory networks that control the expression of said genes. What Ball doesn’t mention is that this new epicycle relies on the prior existence of those regulatory networks and the protein-coding genes they control.

In other words, we now must believe that evolution first constructed the incredible genes and regulatory networks (for which there is no scientific explanation, but that’s another story) which then enabled evolution to proceed.

Such serendipity is unlikely, to put it kindly, but Ball presents it with a straight face . . .

I almost feel sorry for them.  Every day they go to work and get mocked by God when they see how His design is even more exquisite than they realized the day before.  But they trudge on with their blind faith science-of-the-gaps.  Suppressing the truth in unrighteousness must be exhausting.

Romans 1:18–20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Read it all, then be sure to read Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design and Darwin’s Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the Case for Intelligent Design, both by Stephen C. Meyer.

The “Bronze Age Mythology” fallacy

A common tactic from New Atheists is to use the term bronze age mythology to dismiss Biblical views, as if the time period when truth claims were documented can be used to categorically refute them.

But the age of an idea does not impact its truthfulness.  Older ideas have usually gone through more scrutiny than newer ones and are often better supported.

Sure, many old ideas were wrong.  But they weren’t wrong because they were documented a long time ago, they were wrong because they were didn’t correspond to reality.

So the bronze age dig proves nothing, and even if it was true it would undermine atheistic arguments as well. The real bronze age myth is that you can live how you want and never be accountable to your creator.

As Psalm 14:1 points out, the claim that there is no God is also bronze aged:

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds . . .”

And of course, Romans 1:

Romans 1:18-20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

And as you can see from reading St. Augustine and others, the arguments of the New Atheists aren’t new at all.  They are the same old arguments presented with less civility and with the volume turned up to 11.

So don’t buy into the myth that the bronze age argument means anything.