Or month, or whatever. Sometimes I like to turn comment replies into post. Here’s one from the Great pro-life display post.
Hi Mary Kate,
Thanks for visiting and commenting. I hope you reconsider your views. For any pro-choice-to-kill-an-innocent-human-being-in-the-womb argument, ask the same questions about that rationale for human beings outside the womb. Can a woman kill a toddler due to economic, career, romance, etc. concerns? Of course not. So the only question is, “What is the unborn?” The scientific fact is that a new human being is created at fertilization.
Having said that, let’s consider your arguments:
I think that if this country would put some effort into safe and effective birth control, there would be a lot less abortions.
Possibly, but I see a couple problems with that. First, this country does not have a birth control shortage. It is been getting pushed for decades, and the false sense of security it provides has led to tens of millions of diseases and countless abortions.
More importantly, that’s like saying that we won’t make murder outside the womb illegal because there are things we could be doing to reduce murders.
Furthermore, I believe the entire issue should be handled between a woman and her physician.
That ignores the third human being in the equation. How about the unborn and her physician? And could the woman and her physician kill a toddler without consequence? Again, the question is, “What is the unborn?,” and I answered it above.
Everyone else should mind their own business.
Like you are minding your own business here? What about the unborn child’s business? Again, the question is, “What is the unborn?,” and I answered it above. I doubt you’d make the “mind your own business” claim if someone was trying to kill an innocent but unwanted human being outside the womb.
If you really are worried about children, then volunteer to help teenage mothers, adopt orphans, teach children to be responsible and consider the consequences of their actions, teach them how to prevent unwanted pregnancy, and support the family planning efforts of groups like planned parenthood, who prevent far more unwanted pregnancies than any other group among people who can’t afford health care.
I address that more fully in Pro-lifers don’t care about kids after they are born?, but please answer this simple question to yourself: If 3,000 toddlers per day were getting crushed and dismembered because they were unwanted, could you oppose that without being obliged to care for them to adulthood? Or would that mean you didn’t care for them?
Protesting an immoral act does not obligate you to take care of its victims. If you agree with the line that pro-lifers don’t care about the unborn after they are born or that we have a “fetus fetish” or other made-up malady, answer me this: If the gov’t wanted to reduce homelessness by destroying homeless people, would you have a “homeless fetish” and be a raging hypocrite if you protested that but weren’t willing to house them all yourself? Remember, the issue isn’t whether human beings are out of the womb or not but whether it is legitimate to protest an act if you don’t plan to fully fund the consequences of stopping it.
Do you have to be willing to take complete responsibility for human beings you are trying to protect? Can you protest the abuse of the homeless, spouses, children or pets without having to care for them all? (As noted in the link, pro-lifers do a great deal with their own time and money to help women and families in need. I’m just pointed out how fallacious the pro-legalized abortion argument is).
Prevention is the antidote to abortion, not legislation.
Is the prevention of murder, drunk driving, gay-bashing, etc. the answer to all those ills rather than legislation? With that reasoning we wouldn’t need any laws.
Again, the question is, “What is the unborn?,” and I answered it above. “It” is an innocent human being deserving of protection.
Yeah, theological liberals are all about traditional religious understandings! Didn’t the early church fathers take their 6 yr. old girls to gay pride parades, just like Chuck describes on his blog? Weren’t they pro-legalized abortion and pro-taxpayer funded abortions, just like Chuck & Co.?
I’m all for helping widows and orphans and the truly needy, but I prefer to do it with my own money (We’ve supported the Star of Hope homeless ministry for years, among other things). And if I cite Bible verses to support my views, I use them in context, and I don’t force them on non-believers. Chuck did the opposite of all of that.
Chuck’s version of Jesus has him telling us to ask Caesar to take from neighbor A by force (i.e., taxes) to “give” to neighbor B, even if it puts neighbor B and his descendants in semi-permanent bondage to the government.
One of the common sound bites pro-legalized abortionists like Chuck use against pro-lifers is this: “You shouldn’t complain about abortion if you aren’t going to adopt all the kids!” That argument fails on many levels, but it only seems fair to ask Chuck how many formerly homeless people he is currently housing.