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More about Gandhi

If you want to see people get spun up, ask if Gandhi is in Heaven or Hell.  You don’t even have to pick a side.  The point of that link was that our ultimate destination depends on whether we accepted God’s terms and conditions — that is, did we repent and trust in Jesus, or not?  People rarely realize that it is just as judgmental to say he is in Heaven as it is to say he is in Hell.

He did have a great position on abortion that you should remind his defenders about every chance you get:

It seems to me clear as daylight that abortion would be a crime. (quoted in Krishna Kripalani’s “All Men Are Brothers: The Life and Thoughts of Mahatma Gandhi”)

 

Here are some other things to consider when people treat Gandhi as some sort of Junior Jesus.  Did you of know these things noted in Was Mahatma Gandhi really a good person?

  • Although credited with leading India to independence from Britain, Gandhi actually undermined this effort. Between 1900 and 1922, he ­suspended his civil disobedience at least three times, even though more than 15,000 supporters were in jail for the cause. (When Britain finally did withdraw from India, it was largely motivated by their anti-imperialist Prime Minister, Clement Attlee, and the fact that Britain was nearly bankrupt from the war.)
  • Gandhi was dangerously politically incompetent. He ­advised the Jews to adopt nonviolence toward the Nazis, and wrote a letter to ­Hitler starting with the words “My friend”. He also advised the Jews of Palestine to “rely on the goodwill of the Arabs”. Fortunately for their existence, the Jews ignored him.
  • As well as calling Hitler his friend, Gandhi and Mussolini got on well when they met in December 1931. Gandhi praised Mussolini’s “service to the poor, his opposition to super-urbanization, his efforts to bring about a coordination between Capital and ­Labour, his passionate love for his people.”
  • Gandhi was outstandingly racist, describing “the raw Kaffir” as someone “whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a number of cattle to buy a wife, and then pass his life in indolence and ­nakedness,” and saying of white Afrikaaners, “We believe as much in the purity of races as we think they do.”
  • He was also a hypocrite on many levels. He prevented his son marrying a Muslim despite publicly promoting Muslim-Hindu unity. He denounced lawyers, railways and parliamentary politics, yet he was a professional lawyer who constantly used railways to get to meetings to argue that India ­deserved its own parliament. And although he is known for his hunger strikes, his official position was that these were “the worst form of coercion, which militates against the fundamental principles of non-violence” (in which he believed).
  • His views on nakedness and sexual chastity were also belied by his depraved behavior: when he was in his 70s he encouraged his ­17-year-old great-niece, Manu, to be naked during her “nightly cuddles” with him. After sacking several long-standing and loyal members of his 100-strong ­personal entourage who might disapprove of this part of his ‘spiritual quest’, he began sleeping naked with Manu and other young women also.
  • Despite being thought of as a peaceful man, he was vicious and callous. “There will be no tears but only joy if tomorrow I get the news that all three of you were killed,” he once told some of his workers. To a Hindu he once said, “I do not mind if each and every one of the 500 families in your area is done to death.” And he forced Manu, his niece (remember the “nightly cuddles”), to walk through a jungle known for harboring rapists—just so she could retrieve a pumice stone he liked to use on his feet. When she returned in tears, he “cackled” with laughter and said: “If some ruffian had carried you off and you had met your death courageously, my heart would have danced with joy.”
  • In 1908 he left his wife for a German man named Hermann Kallenbach. “Your portrait (the only one) stands on my mantelpiece in my bedroom,” he wrote to Kallenbach. “The mantelpiece is opposite to the bed.” Gandhi nicknamed himself “Upper House” and Kallenbach “Lower House.” The two pledged “more love, and yet more love—such love as they hope the world has not yet seen.”

Also see Reasons to stop quoting Gandhi:

Gandhi spoke and lived out a wealth of worthy truth; I would never suggest we should ignore all of it. God is the God of truth, so we should be confident enough to claim it wherever it springs from. For clarification: my main issue is the ad nauseam use of one particular Gandhi quote, provided almost exclusively by Christians as a rebuke to other Christians. It goes:

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

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Imagine a Christian leader standing up before the media masses and saying to the modern world,

“I like your Gandhi, but I do not like your Hindus”

or

“I like your Muhammad, but I do not like your Muslims.”

Doesn’t sound as cute and enlightened, eh?

That quote, which many Christians use as a sort of self-flagellation, demonstrates Gandhi’s pride.  He thought he was better than Christians and didn’t need Jesus.  He was wrong.

World religions & evangelism videos

I came across this post from a couple years ago and thought I’d re-run it.  This is one of my favorite topics to teach, although I prefer not having to cram it all into one hour!  It works better as a 6-8 week series where you can go more in-depth.

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I did a one hour presentation on world religions for a church group and decided to video tape it as an experiment.  I was pleased with the content of the presentation but learned some things about lighting, sound and pace.  That will make the next one much better. I was hoping it would be shorter but it is hard to cover all world religions and some evangelism basics in one easy session.

I covered some foundational concepts that apply to all religions then addressed some key differences of Christianity versus Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Hare Krishnas, Wiccans and atheists (OK, that’s more of a world non-religion).

I shared experiences I’ve had in witnessing to people in these faiths and some things that helped navigate through conversations effectively.  You really can share the truth without starting a Jihad.

Go here to just see the PowerPoint slides.

Major thanks to Stand to Reason, where I learned much of this.

How would you respond?

I just love this clip, an excerpt from the TV show ER.  I posted on it early this year but was thinking of it again as I I’ll be sharing it with the high school youth at church this Sunday.  I thought I’d come at it from another angle. 

The money quotes:

All I’m hearing is some new age “God is love” one-size-fits-all crap . . . I want a real chaplain who believes in a real God and a real Hell . . . I need answers, and all your questions and uncertainty are only making things worse . . .

I need someone who will look me in the eye and tell me how to find forgiveness, because I am running out of time!

So how would various worldviews answer this man in his quest for forgiveness and getting right with God?  I would expect something like the following:

Hindu — Well, you are close to death so you probably can’t impact too much at this point.  Perhaps if you do a lot of good things you can get reincarnated as a  slightly better human vs. a slightly lesser human, but you just can’t move the needle that much at the very end of your life.

Muslim — Well, you are close to death so you probably can’t impact too much at this point.   If your good deeds are just under your bad ones, then a last minute push might save you.  Otherwise, you are pretty fixed in your destination.  What’s that?  You don’t have a cumulative weighted average of your good vs. bad deeds?  Well, I guess you could do some more good deeds just in case.

Atheist — Souls aren’t real, so you’ll just cease to exist.  Morality is relative, so your quest for forgiveness makes no sense.  There is no God, so who are you asking forgiveness from?  By the way, if you are suffering, just get a physician to help you commit suicide.  There is no need to suffer needlessly.

Theologically liberal Christian or New Ager Just see the lady in the video and add some statements like, “Don’t worry, everyone goes to Heaven.”  The writers did a good job of showing how even the character seeking forgiveness could see that while he didn’t know the truth that whatever that lady was peddling was nonsense.  So it is with Christians or “Christians” too wimpy, selfish, deceptive or uninformed to tell you the truth about repenting and believing.  Eternity is a mighty long time, and these folks will send you the wrong direction.

Orthodox Christian — I have great news for you:  I don’t know everything, but I know how you can find forgiveness and eternal life.  I know the God you sinned against, I know that He has the power to forgive you and I know that He wants to forgive you.  God sent his Son, Jesus, to live the perfect life and die on the cross in your place, and He will accept that as payment for your sins if you trust in him.  You need to repent of your sins and trust in Jesus.  You will be completely forgiven.  All your sins will be transferred to Jesus’ account, and his perfect righteousness will be transferred to yours.  You will spend eternity with him in Heaven. 

Of course there would be more to cover, including demonstrating why Christianity is true and other belief systems are not, but that is a starting point.  In short, I’d tell him the truth — which is Good News. 

How would you respond to someone like him, and why?   If you are a believer and don’t have a somewhat ready answer, then that is your homework assignment for today.  As evangelism goes, discussion starters like the character’s request don’t get any easier.  Remember, you don’t have to know everything — just enough to get started and to know when to say, “I don’t know, but I’ll find out.”

Roundup

naked-gun2Please go read The Naked Gun on the theology of ministry at Patrick’s blog.  If nothing else, you’ll laugh at a great clip from the movie.

Sanctity of Human Life Sunday will be January 18th this year (as well as January 25th in some places).  Last year I was able to speak at a couple Sunday School classes at a large local church.  I’m going to be the Board President for CareNet in 2009 so I’m hoping there will be more speaking opportunities to educate people on all the great things CareNet does for women and their families, as well as how to articulate the pro-life message.

Randy Alcorn is an amazing pro-life apologist (among other things) and is offering his book Why Pro-life? for only $1.60 each (in case quantities) to help churches equip people with the pro-life message.  Let your pastor know that these are available!  It would be a great way to educate people.  Randy is a very winsome and persuasive author.

Here’s some good news: The Love Dare book from the Fireproof movie is #2 on the NYT Best Seller list.

People Said to Believe in Aliens and Ghosts More Than God – This is sad but also amusing, especially with people insisting that it is the advanced education of the West that keeps them from an “irrational” belief in God. They make nice bookends for the deliberately unclear “thinkers” on the other end of the spectrum who insist that there is no truth.

Going rate to kill a pastor: $250 – Hindu extremist groups are offering money, food and alcohol to anyone who murders Christians and destroys their homes.

Obama, Can You Spare Blacks A Proclamation? – this is quite a list!

Predictably, the Abortion President is putting together a seriously anti-life, anti-family Cabinet