About the Word-Faith / Charismatic religion

This is a phenomenal video.  Justin Peters is great at clearly taking down these leaders, who are demon-possessed frauds.  I pray that their followers will watch, learn and escape.

 

Here are some screen shots and notes:

 

 

 

 

 

Both Hindus and Word-Faith/Charismatic groups do this.  Watch videos of each and you’ll see the behavior is indistinguishable.

Cessationism is the belief that the apostolic spiritual gifts have ceased, not that all have ceased.

Pagans can speak in tongues just as professing charismatic Christians do.  And they sound the same!

The “you must speak in tongues to be a Christian” reasoning is nonsense on many levels.  Biblical tongues were known languages, not gibberish.  And they had to be interpreted.  And not everyone was speaking in tongues at once.  And not everyone had the gift of tongues.  Other than that . . .

Go to the 15 min. mark of the video to watch wolf Sid Roth “teach” you how to speak in tongues.  You have to have a complete void of discernment to follow these people.


He does a great job exposing all the “Heaven tourism” books and the dangers of “Christian” bookstores, which have about half biblical books and half satanic books.  They are poster children for being unequally yoked.  It shows that their real motive is profit, not glorifying God (remember that even a pagan can sell Bibles for profit).

Don Piper, for example, claimed in his book that he went to Heaven but didn’t see God.  But now he goes on TV with detailed descriptions of how he did see God.  What a phony.  If your entire claim to fame is that you went to Heaven then there is no way you miss a detail like that.

Peters also exposes the Burpo, Malarkey and other frauds.  One of the alleged Heaven visitors said it was a fraud, but his dad wrote the book and exploited his son’s paralysis for the sake of gain.

Jesse Duplantis is a fraud on many levels, including claiming that an angel called God “Jehovah.”  I didn’t realize that Jehovah was a word made up in the 1500’s and that an angel wouldn’t use it.

Only Stephen, Paul and John are listed in the Bible as having glimpsed Heaven.  Paul humbly said he couldn’t describe the splendor.  But the “Heaven Tourists” describe it in weird and contradictory ways.   And their claims imply that scripture wasn’t complete.

If you want to learn about Heaven, read In Light of Eternity by Randy Alcorn.


He also took on Beth Moore and Sarah Young’s Jesus Calling early on (the video is from 2013) about their “God told me” nonsense.  As Peters says, “If you want to hear God speak, read your Bible.  If you want to hear God speak audibly, read it out loud.”  God is not speaking outside scripture in the way that these wolves claim.


He also exposes the faith healers who pretend that you can always avoid sickness and disease, or that if you get sick then healing is guaranteed.  By claiming that God always heals those who have faith then they are saying it is always your fault if you are sick.  Hey, that’s great, please pile on those who are already suffering.  Oh, and you need to send them money.

Those wolves are not Christians.  You can’t be a Christian and teach those vile lies.  The atonement accomplishes so many things, but some are realized here and some in Heaven.  God still heals, but not on command and definitely not at all times.  The apostolic gift of healing ended almost 2,000 years ago.

And note the goofiness of those who pick a random Bible verse and say that is why you need to “sow a seed” for the chapter and verse (e.g., $54.17 for Isaiah 54:17)?

No legitimate teacher should go on TBN, Daystar, etc. because it gives legitimacy to these wolves.

Sure, pray for healing, but God can use our suffering to sanctify us and glorify himself.


He notes how we are losing the battle on the sufficiency of scripture.  So many people want something more, as if the Bible isn’t enough.


P.S. One of my favorites posts: Most charismatics are closet cessationists

7 thoughts on “About the Word-Faith / Charismatic religion”

  1. Two things:

    1. Wow. I can’t wait to dig into this video.

    2. I kinda feel bad for Christian book stores…or rather, for those who wish to own one. Is it possible to fill their shelves with only truly Godly books to a degree that results in a good ROI? Doesn’t seem so if so many include so much garbage. At minimum, there should be some classification regarding those pseudo-Christian books and authors so that customers are not fooled that they are purchasing truth when buying any of them. There’s something to be said for studying falsehood so as to better recognize new wolves in sheep’s clothing when they come about.

    Worse than feeling bad for Christian book stores, is feeling bad for Christian authors. It’s hard enough to get any book in front of buyers, but Christian themed books? Next to impossible without as much marketing as it available. Christian book stores are but one, but possibly a necessary one. I wonder what the data shows with regard to whether or not Christian book stores make much difference to an author’s desire to increase sales.

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    1. Hey Marshall,

      1. Yep, you’ll love it.

      2. Yeah, I feel bad in a sense. I’d seriously rather them sell medicinal marijuana or something to make up for not selling Jesus Calling. And yes, tough to be an author – especially knowing that the better the book is the less likely it will be to be popular.

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      1. So I just got finished watching the video and yeah, I loved it. (I wish I could’ve heard what the guy in audience said!)

        It occurs to me that we’ve had one of those “gone to heaven” books in my home…possibly two, though what I think might be a second could be something that was touched on in the one of which I’m sure we had (might still, I fear). The one for sure was the one about the kid Todd Burpo(? Is that right, or am I thinking Harpo, Chico, Burpo…anyway). I read it as well after the wife got it from who knows where. I think she picked it up after seeing the father on TV being interviewed and she found it fascinating. I did, too, actually, but I did tell her I totally doubted everything about it…for reasons listed in the video. More accurately, I told her it made for a nice story, but it’s crap, and THEN went into some of the points about why.

        I think people read these types of books and it gives them hope that what they were believing…which never for most stop feeling unbelievable…might actually be true. They prefer it over the natural, permissible, excusable doubt. It’s easier to buy into it than to struggle with the doubts. Faith does not come easily for all. I think many go back and forth between confidence and doubt throughout their lives. To some extent, I think I make the conscious choice to believe and other times I feel like it can’t possibly be any other way. Than to another extent, I think I simply default to belief. Yet, like those who are drawn to books like these, I still fantasize about absolute proof while I still live. Again, I think that’s natural and I long ago stopped beating myself up over it.

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      2. Well, one can “repent and believe and make Jesus your true Lord” and still have doubts. It might almost be excusable if authors of these books were writing them to help in that area, but I’m pretty sure they do it for the bucks.

        Don’t know where this comment will appear. There was no “reply” button attached to your last response.

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  2. It’s been quite a while since I’d dug into this world. It’s interesting to see people who buy this garbage.

    One of the benefits of making the switch to a Kindle was that I could avoid Christian bookstores entirely.

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