Mark Sandlin is a wolf in sheep’s clothing who often blogs at Jim “the Gospel is all about wealth redistribution” Wallis’ Sojourners blog. A friend sent me a link to Jesus Is Not My God, where Sandlin loudly and proudly claims not to believe in the deity of Christ. He is welcome to his opinions, of course, and I respect his right of religious freedom. We even have a precise theological term for people like him: Non-Christians.
I’ll start with one of his closing comments, because it typifies the approach of these “progressive Christians.”
I’m not trying to say I am right and others are wrong.
I find that kind of statement as revolting as his claims to be a Christian. It is a completely wimpy, passive-aggressive postmodern lie. He has a pulpit, blogs and Podcasts in place to teach these things, so he obviously thinks he is right. Why not grow a pair and own it?
This is the first post in a series called:“This Collar Is Too Tight: Heresies From a Southern Minister.” Most institutionalized Churches define who is and who isn’t a Christian far too narrowly. There is an increasingly long list of tenets to which a person must dogmatically adhere in order to be in the club. The thing is… I don’t believe a whole lot of them. I even find many of them to be biblically inaccurate.
That’s an odd thing for him to say, because he sits in judgment of the Bible and decides for himself what “really” belongs.
I’ve decided to address them one by one because I’ve discovered that there are a lot of people who feel the same way — even other ministers.
The fact that there are many false teachers — especially within his circles — proves nothing.
I hope that this will give us all a little support and encouragement as we try to cling to our Christian-ness while others try to take it from us.
We aren’t trying to take anything way. But words mean things, and based on the Bible and thousand of years of history it is incorrect to call people like him Christians.
I am a believer. Mostly.
I believe that there is probably a god — something bigger than us. I have a very hard time believing that there’s not something larger than humanity.
Wow, that’s bold apologetics. Preach on, “minister.”
. . . When I worship, I worship that God who is all-at-once bigger than me and might not be at all.
It’s the same god I believe Jesus was trying to teach us about.
In calling God “Father,” Jesus tried to teach us about the nurturing nature of this god. In saying that he and the “Father” were one he was trying to teach us about how we are all one in this god-thing that is larger than us. In telling us that in loving other people (everyone) we were loving God, he was trying to teach us about the connectedness of us all being created in the image of God.
I am a Christian because Jesus, for me, is the teacher who best helps me understand this god-thing.
How can one claim to be a Christ-follower and reject so much of what He taught?
When he worshiped, he worshiped that same god.
He did not worship himself.
Jesus never called himself God.
Here the cheating starts in earnest. He’ll ignore what he doesn’t like from the synoptic Gospels, then dismiss the Gospel of John and the rest of the biblical claims about his divinity with a wave of his hand. He starts with the assumption that the Bible isn’t the word of God, and concludes that the Bible isn’t the word of God. Convenient.
Read through Matthew, Mark and Luke. You won’t find him saying it. Sure, there are a few places where you can interpret what Jesus says to possibly suggest he is God, but it isn’t stated outright.
Maybe if he didn’t go to the text with his preconceptions he’d come to a different conclusion.
You have to ask yourself: Something that important, don’t you think he might have mentioned it? And, if he did mention it, don’t you think somebody would have decided it was important enough to jot it down?
The Gospel of John does have Jesus mentioning the whole being God thing – a lot. The difference is a bit striking, isn’t it? The first three Gospels, all written before the Gospel of John, without Jesus saying he is God… and then John, after many years have passed, with Jesus saying he is God.
Does anyone else think it sounds like dogma slipped in there during those in-between years?
Thus begins the “progressive Christian” approach which isn’t new at all. There are countless solid answers to objections like that but Sandlin doesn’t even pretend to have attempted to understand them.
Actually, yes, they do. Most modern scholars agree that John has some new theological perspective into its accounting of the life of Jesus. It may or may not be right, but because of the other three Gospels, I’m going with the idea that it is probably an addition.
Translation: “Most modern scholars” = “people I agreed with when I went opinion shopping.” So Sandlin knows more than the early church? Indeed.
For me, Jesus not being God is a good thing – a very good thing.
If what I hope to get from Jesus is an understanding of how to be the people God created us to be and to develop a closer relationship and understanding of God through that, it is much more helpful to see a person who is actually a person and not a god doing it. It’s hopeful even.
This “minister” doesn’t even understand the hypostatic union.
. . . I am saying that if you, too, believe Jesus is not your God, no matter what people tell you, you can still call yourself a Christian.
The Bible, the early church, common sense and 2,000 years of church history say otherwise.
Sandlin does what most pagans do, only they are more honest than he is and don’t make a living off their lies. He finds a handful of verses he likes and claims to be a Christian. But he doesn’t even hold to his professed belief of just believing Matthew, Mark and Luke. Even those have Jesus speaking of Hell extensively, and Sandlin certainly couldn’t support that. And Jesus said that marriage, from the beginning, was just a union of a man and a woman. Sandlin actively denounces biblical sexuality so once again he disagrees with Jesus.
The “Christian” Left doesn’t agree with the beginning of the Gospels (virgin birth, claims of divinity (John 1)). Or the end (physical resurrection). Or the middle (miracles, Hell, teaching against “same-sex marriage” and evolution, claims to be the only way to salvation, claims of divinity, etc.).
Yet they claim to follow Jesus. They reflexively add and take away from scripture. Wolves like Mark “Jesus is not my God” Sandlin deny things like the virgin birth, which is clearly taught in scripture, then make up things about the Magi tipping off Joseph about Herod’s plans.
Here are a couple of their life (er, uh, death) verses:
Luke 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.
Jude 4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Run, don’t walk, from the “Christian” Left and false teachers like Mark Sandlin.
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He writes: “Does anyone else think it sounds like dogma slipped in there during those in-between years?”
He needs to ask this question of his own heretical dogma.
And yet his ilk get all the audience.
I saw the second post of his series on Heresies (which is quite an appropriate name for the series so far) where he claims Jesus wasn’t born of a virgin and that the Bible doesn’t claim he was. This guy is nuts. He apparently has absolutely no reading comprehension skills whatsoever. He makes things up. I really don’t know how anyone could believe what he says unless they have never actually read any of the Bible for themselves.
You amaze me, Neil. I can’t imagine how mentally tough you must be to go on that evil site and spar with those fools. I’ve seen several of them on other sites (Tony Jones) spewing the same vile nonsense. It’s astonishing to me how they can read and say what they claim they do and still call themselves “Christian”. It is as the Bible says, God has blinded them, allowing them to wallow in the mire of their own filth. That can be the only answer.
Thanks, James. I can only do it now and then. Too frustrating seeing all those people claim the name of Christ while mocking the cross at every turn!
Can anything good come out from Wallis’ Sojourners blog?
I think so. When you see someone dredging up the Crusades to make their case that Christianity is evil, point out that their argument is really rather weak, and then offer to show them current Christians who have supported the killing of millions of innocents in order increase the validity of their arguments. If they bite, take them to Sojourners blog and show them that Wallis is completely in favor of crushing and dismembering innocent human beings simply because they are unwanted. Remind them that Obama claims also to be a Christian, as does Pelosi and the Clintons, and that they fight tooth and nail to make sure that these killings continue unabated. This forces them to deal with two facts. Today, as well as 1000 years ago, all who claimed to be Christians were not, and that abortion is murder, which indicts them also because chances are really good, they themselves support this practice.