My post asking if the Bible was unclear on homosexuality brought this somewhat predictable comment. It never made reference to the Bible, it just repeated all sorts of un-biblical fallacies. Sadly, this is no straw man comment. Lots of people claiming the name of Christ repeat these arguments.
quite a few of my friends are gay. I am not. But knowing them, i know with all my heart they were born – created – gay. It is not something they chose to be.
I’ve had a lot of gay friends as well. I don’t get in their face about it any more than I do that with the sins of heterosexual friends. But I also don’t teach that any sins of my friends are acceptable to God.
You “know” that with your “heart?” Emotions are nice, but not a good way to make decisions. Please consider Paul’s prayer in Philippians 1:9-11 — And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
Please note how he links love with knowledge and discernment.
I encourage you to read some research on the causes of homosexuality. It is not genetic.
And even if they were “born that way,” it is a biblical concept that we are born with a sinful nature. We don’t get an “ought” from an “is.” Sadly, I’ve been really effective at coveting, pride and selfishness since I was little, but I don’t get a pass on those sins because I was “born that way.”
God is LOVE. God loves all of us. How could He not love people HE created gay?
I mean this in a most serious and kind way: How much of the Bible have you studied? Do you not see how you could apply that to any sin? Do you not see how seriously God treats sin? My #1 recommendation to anyone debating any topic on Christianity is to read the Bible more.
God wants US to love one another. Treat one another with love and acceptance.
That argument assumes that homosexuality isn’t sinful, but it doesn’t explain why we should hold that view. Can you show me in the Bible where we are taught to accept any sin? How about 1 Corinthians 5?
I do not believe it is the right of any of us to judge any other person – only God.
But aren’t you judging me and others who hold the view that homosexual behavior is a sin (along with many other behaviors)?
I do not believe it’s about whether their behaviour is sinful or not. Who of us is without sin?
But it is about whether the behavior is sinful. That’s the point of the discussion, and you’ve already claimed it isn’t sinful. But the burden of proof is on you to reason your case from the Bible.
The fact that we are all sinners doesn’t mean that we would encourage people to remain in sin.
The really Christian thing to do is love your neighbour. I love my gay friends, and they are beautiful and in some cases deeply Christian – more Christian than many so called Christians who have rejected them for their sexuality.
Your love for your friends isn’t the Biblical love of having their long-term best interests at heart. If anyone teaches the opposite of the Bible then I don’t think it is correct to describe them as “deeply Christian.”
We don’t reject them for their sexuality, we love them enough to speak the truth. I urge you to read the Bible thoroughly and reconsider your views.