My daughter took a college sociology class (Motto: “Let’s use your parent’s money to turn you into a Liberal!”). Fortunately, just like her older sister, she has amazing critical thinking skills and a biblical worldview and saw through the nearly nonstop nonsense.
One of the homework assignments was to ask someone the survey questions below. It is obviously a twist on the questions people have asked gays – some of which are fair and relevant and others of which are silly. I’m sure the lesson we’re supposed to learn is that there is absolutely nothing wrong with LGBTQ behavior and we are all twisted homophobes (bi-phobes, transgender-phobes, etc.) for merely questioning the practices.
She picked me to answer the questionnaire. Yea! She had a 100% average going into the assignment, so she felt pretty comfortable that even if there was retribution she could weather it grade-wise. And she could always just claim that she interviewed one of those awful bigoted-hateful-homophobic-right-wing-fundie-nutjob-uneducated-conservative-zealots (because after all, if you call your ideological opponents names like that you must be right!).
Side notes: This oh-so-tolerant teacher didn’t bat an eye when one student (Official nickname: Drunk Guy) loudly noted during class that, “Conservatives are assholes.”
The teacher gave one assignment after another where she made a grand assumption without evidence then proceeded to ask why white males were at fault. One example: The lesson asking, “How does male dominance help to explain homophobia (or heterosexism).” I am not making this up.
The textbook used feminine pronouns exclusively, with the exception of when the subject was clearly a bad person, in which case male pronouns were used.
Let’s just say I’m very grateful for the Rate My Professors website. I think this is an outstanding tool for people to fairly evaluate their professors and warn others of those who are ideological bullies. What is scary is that this teacher was actually exercising restraint.
Here’s the survey and my replies. I just love helping the academic process move along. I’m sure the professor enjoyed them and changed her positions. Feel free to offer your own answers!
1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
By nature and design I was born to be attracted to the opposite sex.
2. When and how did you decide that you were a heterosexual?
I don’t recall. There are many things I did instinctively as a child. Some were good, some were not. One of the keys to successful living is learning which instincts are wrong and dealing with them.
3. Is it possible that your heterosexuality is just a phase that you may grow out of?
No, but given that it is natural and biblical I have no reason to consider changing it.
4. Is it possible that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
No, because I don’t fear the same sex. I have countless friendships and acquaintances with men and they don’t involve fear, let alone neurotic fear.
5. If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?
There are many unhealthy things I have never done. I don’t need to try them to see if I might like them. And even if I did like them it doesn’t mean they would be good for me.
Having said that, I wouldn’t propose to LGBTQ people to have sex out of wedlock as a solution to anything.
6. Do your parents know that you are straight? Do your friends and roommates know?
Yes.
7. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be who you are and keep it quiet?
That is a “have you stopped beating your wife” type of fallacious question. I don’t flaunt my heterosexuality. I don’t march in heterosexual pride parades. I don’t fly heterosexual pride flags or put bumper stickers on my car.
I also don’t try to stop LGBTQ people from associating with whomever they like.
8. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
Many people put too much emphasis on sex. But I am not defined just by my heterosexuality. If I were to describe myself, I wouldn’t even use it as an adjective.
9. Why do heterosexuals feel so compelled to introduce others into their lifestyle?
I can’t speak for everyone, but I am very familiar with the physical, emotional and spiritual destructiveness of the homosexual lifestyle.
10. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexual. Do you consider it safe to expose children to heterosexual teachers?
I would like to see the statistics supporting your premise. My understanding of the sexual preferences of the Catholic pedophile priests is the opposite of that. LGBTQ people comprise roughly 2% of the population, so even if they molested children at the same rate as the rest of the population then 98% of molestations would be committed by heterosexuals. My understanding is that a disproportionate amount of abusers are gays.
11. Just what do men and women do in bed together? How can they truly know how to please each other, being so anatomically different?
It is not a well-kept secret that men and women were designed for sexual relations with the opposite sex.
12. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships between heterosexuals?
The sexual revolution, which includes the LGBTQ agenda, is a big part of it. Human selfishness, the no-fault divorce laws, the explosion of pornography, and so much more contribute to it. Bible-believing, church-attending people (i.e., not just those checking the “Christian” box on surveys) have much lower divorce rates than average.
Having said that, the rate of partners for gays is exponentially higher than that for heterosexuals.
13. Statistics show that lesbians have the lowest incidence of sexually transmitted disease. Is it really safe for a woman to maintain a heterosexual lifestyle and run the risk of disease and pregnancy?
Statistics also show that it is nearly impossible to get an STD if two virgins marry and are committed to each other for life.
Statistics also show that gays are over 40 times more likely to get syphilis or HIV than heterosexuals. I assume there will be a follow up question asking if it is really safe to maintain a homosexual lifestyle and run the risk of disease or to have sex out of wedlock and run the risk of a child outside of marriage.
Is it really safe for people to ever consider having sex outside of a one man / one woman marriage?
14. How can you expect to become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality?
I’m not sure what you mean by “compulsive,” but I can be a whole person as a heterosexual because that is who I am by nature, and it is in complete agreement with the word of God. My wholeness is not dependent on me experimenting with every sexual possibility known to man. In fact, I am much more whole by not doing those things.
15. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
Overpopulation concerns are in error. The earth could support many more people. Also, the question is fallacious because 98% of the population is heterosexual (i.e., the 2% difference is negligible).
Having said that, the population replenishment argument against LGBTQ people is pretty meaningless.
16. Could you trust a heterosexual therapist to be objective? Don’t you feel that s/he might be inclined to influence you in the direction of his/her own leanings?
All other things being equal, I would trust them more than someone who ignores the physical, spiritual and emotional dangers of the LGBTQ lifestyle. If you really care about people you won’t deliberately hide the truth from them. If a therapist doesn’t understand the basic nature and design of human beings and teaches things contrary to the word of God, then I wouldn’t trust them on this topic.
17. There seems to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered trying aversion therapy?
Do you have any data to support that? I know many happy heterosexuals. And the ones who are unhappy may be so because they have violated God’s design for sex. My understanding is that suicide rates for gays are higher even in ultra gay-friendly cities and countries.
18. Would you want your child to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?
That question seems incomplete. Perhaps you could note the problems that heterosexuals have that LGBTQ people don’t have? I would want my kids to live in accordance with natural law and the word of God. That is always the best plan. If people get high school degrees and don’t have sex out of wedlock, the odds of them being poor are very, very low. If they do the opposite then the odds of them being poor are very high. That’s just one example.
I do realize that people with the courage to speak the truth about sexual matters may be vilified as “haters” and such, but I would want my kids to do what is right rather than what is just popular. I am all for civility and I treat the many gays and lesbians I know with kindness. I have taught my children to do the same. But political correctness is merely saying what you know to be false in order to maintain your popularity.
Eternity Matters 
I can just imagine the professor turning beat red as he/she/it reads it.
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I wrote that post over a month ago but post-dated it until after the semester was over. She got an A on everything. I think the final assignment only included a few of the questions/answers, but I was glad to spell them out anyway.
To her credit, my daughter put such good arguments on the discussion boards that it was hard for the teacher to disagree. There was a race-baiting post about why whites try to keep their majority. My daughter cleverly pointed out to this presumably pro-abortion crowd that the 3x rate of black abortions to whites is the main reason that whites are staying in the majority. I’ll be that really turned ’em red, as it put their pro-abortion / pro-race-baiting views in a suicidal position.
P.S. My daughter was endlessly irritated at the teacher and the class but still prays for the teacher. I met her at the end of the semester at a speech symposium where my daughter was speaking. I think the lady will end up sad and lonely with her worldview.
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Oh good! So there was a happy ending! I was quite concerned.
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Psh…Personally I think this is the best assignment ever. Not because it’s actually a good assignment. It’s just terrible. But mostly because it’s such an amusing questionnaire. I’m tempted to answer some of these myself because some of these questions are so amazingly ridiculous that they obviously don’t make sense.
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I originally titled it “Best.” because it was fun to do. But then I changed it to “Worst.” because it was so ridiculous. I think I’ll change it back to “Best.”, in your honor!
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Heh, awesome! Sometimes things are just so terrible that they somehow circle their way back to being “awesome” (obviously using that word very loosely).
This questionnaire really is terrible though. I don’t really have any opinions either way about gays/lesbians but still…nothing on this questionnaire makes sense.
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I think Sombra is saying that this homework assignment is like “Snakes on a Plane”.
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Yep, exactly like that (even though I’ve never seen anything more than the trailers for that movie).
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Those are the stupidest questions I’ve ever read. Is this a joke? No one in their right mind would ever ask questions like that.
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Sadly, it really happened.
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That’s exactly the point. Why are we asking homosexuals these questions, but not heterosexuals. Seeing as one’s gender preference is something that they cannot choose, it is ridiculous to ask anyone these questions. I could hardly make it through all of these responses. What’s interesting is that the man who responded to this survey thinks his daughter’s A came out of her teacher not being able to debunk her arguments, rather than considering that sociologists, unlike what he likes to consider “model christians” are open to considering various view points. Sociology is an incredibly enlightening subject if one studies it with an open mind.
I’m not sure why I’m posting this comment on a blog thats readers will obviously not be reading my comment with consideration of the possibility that an opposing person’s viewpoint could have any reliability.
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Hi Christina,
We all have various temptations, but we can choose whether to act upon them.
And we are very open-minded. We know that there can be natural and supernatural causes for things, not just natural ones. The sociology teacher did not have an open mind at all. She let all sorts of hateful speech against conservatives go on without comment (i.e., the student who said, “Conservatives are assholes” and received nothing in the way of correction from the teacher).
That is fascinating how you consider yourself to be open minded when you are the one who hasn’t considered both sides. Please tell me how much conservative media and entertainment you consume in relation to the liberal side . . .
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Great post!!! I’m keeping this for future reference when I can’t think on my feet!
This is also a great example of what is wrong with public schools.
(Take a look at your last statement for #13 – I think you mean “outside of”)
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Yes, thanks for the correction!
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I find this frighting. How many Christian children are sent into that environment without tool one to fend off being steamrolled by this ideologue? How many Christian parents send their children to colleges and are shocked when they come out flaming atheistic liberals? Yes, this is frightening. Good job Neil on loving your children enough to train them.
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Thanks, Dan. I was fortunate because my daughter home-schooled her last two years and took some classes at the community college this year that doubled for high school and college. Therefore, I heard more details than I normally would have. She was eager to discuss what went on so she could be prepared. These were just a few of many examples.
I mean, we’re in Texas, and the teacher and class members still assumed everyone was Liberal!
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I came out of college much more conservative than I went in. In fact, I credit my super-liberal alma mater with making me the conservative I am today.
Then again, that’s probably because I spent all of my time learning fluid dynamics, mathematics, and physics, not being indoctrinated in anthropology and sociology. (The other advantage of having your kids go this route is that you won’t be spending $200,000 – or a $200,000 education – to have them come out with no job prospects.)
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That is encouraging! I think it strengthened my daughter a lot as well. Nothing wrong with having your beliefs challenged (the Liberals ought to try it sometime), but a little fairness and full disclosure by the professors would be nice.
Sounds like you know one of my relatives! Very liberal going into college, even more liberal coming out, and guess what? No one wants to pay her big bucks (or any bucks) for her to share her wisdom. Sadly, she’ll probably get a Masters so she can teach the same stuff to more people. It is part of the self-perpetuating college cycle: Take Womyn’s Studies courses so you can teach Womyn’s Studies courses.
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Liberals love pyramid schemes. Social Security? Check. Medicare? Check. Bernie Madoff? No one’s Republican. Academia? Yep.
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My sons both went to a relatively conservative school, but they got steamed up over a few courses.
Dan, it is frightening. Some bad things have happened to some of my former Sunday School Students. I am working very hard on preparation.
One thing I have found is “Is God Real” by Focus on the Family’s “Truth Project.” It has a great video about problems faced by college students, even in so-called “Christian ” universities.
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“She picked me to answer the questionnaire. Yea! She had a 100% average going into the assignment, so she felt pretty comfortable that even if there was retribution she could weather it grade-wise. ”
This makes me sad, but proud. Sad that such a thing could be said in a country founded on liberty, especially religious liberty. But also proud, because you are a great Dad.
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“5. If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?”
Wow. I’ve never eaten bat shit before, That doesn’t mean I want to try it, either, or that I should..
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Love your answers, Neil.
May I add in a few comments?
#1: What caused your heterosexuality?
Evolution. Notice how every person answering this questionnaire has heterosexual parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, all the way back to the primordial muck.
#8: Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
As a nice waiting-for-marriage not-so-young lady, I take offence to that, but I would say that it’s because heterosexual sex is the only way in which the next generation can be born.
#9. Why do heterosexuals try to introduce people to their lifestyle?
Because heterosexual, fertile, lifelong marriage is the best thing – financially, health-wise, emotionally, and psychologically – for people. You’re the sociology professor; shouldn’t you know that?
#11: Just what do men and women do in bed together? How can you learn to please each other?
Have real sex. Homosexuals just try to mimic heterosexual sex.
Learning to please your partner is one of those cues that Life. Is. Not. All. About. You. That it requires men and women to put the other one first is good practise for other aspects of marriage, as well as for parenthood.
#12. Why is the divorce rate so high?
The liberal agenda. Let’s go back to 1950s mores, 1950s-era laws, and 1950s-era abortion laws and access, and we’ll see the divorce rate fall faster than Barack Obama’s approval ratings.
#13. Statistics show that lesbians have the lowest rates of STDs. (Etc.)
Yes, and they also have a lower incidence of pregnancy (0%) than their heterosexual peers (about 90%), which is really tough when you want a baby of your own.
#14. How can you be a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive heterosexuality?
Being one of those crazy feminists, I think I’m a whole person, even without romantic involvement.
#15. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
Asking how the human race would survive with heterosexuals is like asking how the Olympics would function with world-class athletes. But you are bringing home my point about how a liberal is someone who flunked freshman biology, and then sophomore economics, before declaring that the world is wrong and needs fixing.
18. Would you want your child to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?
Yeah, naturally conceiving children in marriage must really suck. Much better to fornicate with total strangers, be forty-four times as likely to get AIDS, twice as likely to get cancer, be infertile, and spend your entire sex life trying to act as if your partner has the body of the opposite sex, while stridently denying that you actually want to be with someone of the opposite sex.
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Roxanne, those are great! It fits in well with your modesty week / anti-slutwalk theme.
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I have yet to run into a Sociology class that doesn’t push a bias into every topic. I recall some amusing battles with one professor in particular. I don’t recall ever running across anything quite as blatant as that questionnaire though.
I’ve found that usually these professors are the least equipped to handle well-reasoned debate (not sure if that is a product of their own brainwashing or simply being used to not being challenged by students…likely a combination of the two).
I don’t mean to be too disparaging of the study itself. There is certainly some value to it (though far more limited than Psychology), and I’m sure there are logically-minded Sociology professors as well.
Unfortunately so many professors focus on conflict theorists that it gets lost in an endless cycle of “damn the man” type rhetoric.
At least as Christians we have a pretty handy litmus test for any so-called truth we receive in such courses. Simply line it up against the Word of God…if there is conflict, it should be obvious where the error lies.
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Hi PJ,
Exactly. Sounds like you took the class as well! It is a shame because there are some interesting things people could learn about sociology if they didn’t make it purely political.
You are right, of course, but that’s the problem: Too few Christians know the Word and spend time with it.
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Neil!
Stop flaunting your heterosexuality right now, young man!!
Seriously, this post is so funny I can’t drink my coffee without snarfing. LOL! I have to save this one — my oldest starts highschool in September. This one goes in my files for future reference!
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Sorry! I promise to behave better!
Glad you enjoyed it.
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I found some of those questions fantastically mind-boggling … from THEIR perspective. Assuming that “we’re born this way”, how do they make sense? For instance, what would THEY say causes heterosexuality or any other sexuality (Q1)? Don’t they claim it’s by birth, not by causation? Don’t they explicitly deny that people choose to have a sexual orientation (Q2)? Is sexual orientation by birth or is it “a phase that you may grow out of” (Q3)? On and on. Most of those questions only make sense if your sexual preference is a choice which they vehemently deny. Or could it be that this is a tacit admission that this whole “born that way” concept is a fabrication intended to cover their sin? Naw!
(And I was fascinated by the “flaunting your heterosexuality” concept. Statistically, 90% of the world is “heterosexual”. So “flaunting” that would be “being normal”? I mean, even THEY admit that they’re not normal, but “queer”. It would be like a natural blonde walking around with blonde hair and being chastised for having blonde hair visible. What do you want?)
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I don’t know if you were saying this also Stan, and it goes without saying really which is what makes this survey absurd, but no homosexuals, or heterosexuals either for that matter, would exist without heterosexual copulation. In short,and by extension with this backward logic, it is not normal to even exist.
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1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
God created me, and everyone else, that way.
2. When and how did you decide that you were a heterosexual?
When God gave me my consciousness.
3. Is it possible that your heterosexuality is just a phase that you may grow out of?
No more or less than the fact that I might out grow being a male.
4. Is it possible that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
No, it stems from the God created hormones coursing through my body.
5. If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?
I wouldn’t use “good” in that context.
6. Do your parents know that you are straight? Do your friends and roommates know?
They know that that I think women are gorgeous, yes.
7. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be who you are and keep it quiet?
By flaunt do you mean that I answer the questions when asked on this questionnaire? I don’t go around advertising it.
8. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
Within the confines of a committed loving marriage, who wouldn’t?!?
9. Why do heterosexuals feel so compelled to introduce others into their lifestyle?
Just like my love of pizza, I don’t care who else loves or hates it.
10. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexual. Do you consider it safe to expose children to heterosexual teachers?
This is just too stupid of a question to even answer.
11. Just what do men and women do in bed together? How can they truly know how to please each other, being so anatomically different?
The fact that my wife is so anatomically different is EXACTLY what I enjoy!
12. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships between heterosexuals?
Because of dumb classes and assignments like this. Not to mention the raging feminist movement.
13. Statistics show that lesbians have the lowest incidence of sexually transmitted disease. Is it really safe for a woman to maintain a heterosexual lifestyle and run the risk of disease and pregnancy?
Please see my answer to #8.
14. How can you expect to become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality?
That’s like asking how I cam be a whole person if I never shove needles under my fingernails. There are lots of things I do not ever plan on experiencing but I am still “whole”.
15. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
I put my hope and trust into God. He’ll take care of the rest. (P.S. I live in a rural area with vast areas of open space. Overpopulation? By whose definition?)
16. Could you trust a heterosexual therapist to be objective? Don’t you feel that s/he might be inclined to influence you in the direction of his/her own leanings?
No because I am already there.
17. There seems to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered trying aversion therapy?
You are hanging out with the wrong heterosexuals.
18. Would you want your child to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?
First, there are no problems with God’s plan for human sexuality. Second absolutely would I want my child to follow God’s plan for human sexuality, namely heterosexuality.
I think I’d fail the class! LOL
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Nicely done. You failed the class, all right! You need more indoctrination.
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Not that I intend to defend the teacher who gave this silly “test”, or the whoever it was who created it, but isn’t the point to use the same questions supposedly asked of homosexuals and see how heteros respond? To then question the intelligence of any of the questions then supports their argument that the questions themselves are silly to ask of homosexuals. This means that they begin with the notion that there is no difference between heteros or homos beyond their sexual preferences, so thus, the questions are silly and bigoted for a hetero to pose to a homo. Thus, to denigrate any of the questions is to play right into their hands.
This whole questionare is similar to the one question that is surprisingly absent: What if the whole world was homosexual and YOU were in the minority and treated the same way? I’ve been asked this question in various forms on more than one occasion and my answer is the same—it’s a stupid question as this is how the world works and we must deal with it as it is, and not worry about fantasy alternatives.
But I could take it further. I could say that I would probably not inject into Scripture meaning the text does not intend to convey in order to justify my decision to ignore its teachings about my behavior. Or, I could say that I would be just like homosexuals and demand the rest of the world accept my behavior as normal and morally benign despite what logic, Scripture and thousands of years of tradition has held.
The questinaire intends to push the notion of that our arguments in favor of God’s will for human sexuality (or nature’s intention in having two sexes made for each other) are without merit by showing how the questions would be silly to be asked of us. I would reject the assignment on the basis of that lie, or be sure to render my opinion in that regard.
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Hi Marshall – I see your point to a degree, which is why I tried to note which questions were silly to ask anyone (I.e., telling a gay to sleep with a girl to fix him). But some of them do make sense to ask gays. And the main issue was why the propaganda? If this was an assignment I figured it was wise to work the Christian worldview into the responses. But I see your point that you must be careful not to take the bait.
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Marshall: the questionnaire assumes what it is trying to prove, namely, that gays are only treated differently because they are in the minority, not because their lifestyle and choices are objectively less good for society.
Our response is that we don’t care if gays were 99% of the population and were traditionally more in social power than were heterosexuals, nor would we care if their sex acts were less “icky”, or whatever. I, for one, would still point out that every child needs a mother and a father to come into existence (even with advanced fertility treatments!), and every child deserves both growing up. I would also point out that while a gay couple might be more stable in a legally-recognised relationship, there is NO quid pro quo there, unlike heterosexual relationships. Heterosexuals create (from almost nothing) entirely new human beings, then rear them in the best home (of all the possible permutations), provide them with the best opportunities, and make them the least likely to be drug-abusing, depressed criminals.
Yes, crazy pro-lifer that I am, it’s all about the babies to me. To me, homosexuality just doesn’t provide the same benefit to society that justifies “equal rights”. The questionnaire assumes that they provide the same benefit, or that a couples’ benefit to society is immaterial to the way that society sanctions and supports their relationship.
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Fantastic, Neil. I give you an A+.
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Y’know what sucks? Noticing a typo of some sort AFTER you’ve clicked on “Post Comment” and then being helpless to do anything abou it.
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I just did it again. “abou it” Damn!
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Fantastic, Neil! A+!!!
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You know what sucks? Getting an “error” message after typing a comment and then typing it again, only to find that the first one went through. #commentfail
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Re: #10, on child molestation, I read something eye-opening a few months ago, which explains how liberals and/or psychologists can obfuscate the much higher rates of homosexual molestation. They simply define man-boy molestation as not being strictly homosexual, but actually pedophilia (perhaps not the most precise term, but I can’t remember it). “Homosexual” defined would be man-man; man-boy, therefore, is *not* “homosexual,” so a man molesting a boy is not acting out of homosexual tendencies/lust, but pedophilia. [Not sure if they use the same splitting of hairs to say that a man who molests little girls is not acting out of heterosexual lust.]
Plus, most homosexuals aren’t strictly homosexual — very few people would be exclusively attracted to the same sex, never desiring another opposite-sex partner. [Case in point, one woman I know via the computer is a proud lesbian, “married” to her long-time female lover (around 20 years I think), yet she would say that she is only “95% homosexual,” not only having been married to the father of her three children, for many years, and bouncing back and forth between homo and hetero for much of her adolescence and young adulthood, but even now occasionally having hetero longings and fantasies. (She’s a midwife, which is why I know her, but she wrote that post on National Coming Out Day or something.)] These people would most properly (according to the pointy-head intellectuals who have conferred upon themselves all the rights to come up with these terms and definitions) be identified as bisexual, not homosexual.
Therefore, a man who is married to a woman but having homosexual flings on the side, or a man who is flagrantly homosexual but still occasionally finding a woman to have sex with, would be considered a bisexual. If a man is married to a woman, but takes out his homosexual desires on a young boy, that man would still be identified as a heterosexual, or at most bisexual, with pedophilia, even though the abuse was certainly homosexual in nature.
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Excellent points, Kathy. I think they work hard to twist the stats. When they claim that man-boy relations are pedophilia and not homosexual pedophilia they tip their hands, but of course the media doesn’t call them on it.
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First off, my sociology professor was a Christian but somewhat liberal, though nothing like the professor you’re describing. He pissed people off because he went on and on about statistics that proved uncomfortable truths: divorced parents cause problems for children, children with two parents fare the best, the development of intelligence starts very soon after conception, racial stereotypes are usually based in truth (but are also perpetuated by people’s expectations of them being true). Sociology is what it is. I do question the objectivity of this teacher and textbook you’re daughter was subjected to.
As for this questionnaire, it is designed precisely to show the ridiculous nature of these questions. They are asked of LGBT-identified people in different scenarios: some of them by well-meaning and curious individuals. The teacher obviously had a strong feminist racially sensitive anti-patriarchal bias, similar to someone having a strong creationist conservative morally absolutist bias. I encourage neither. I also have strong critical thinking skills. I could take your argument and your answer to these questions bit by bit and enter into a debate without resulting in name-calling or anger. That would take a lot of time and would yield no fruit since it won’t really make a difference.
You are entitled to your opinion like anyone else. I would just strongly encourage anyone, liberal or conservative, gay or straight, to drop this strong ‘us vs them’ mentality. I would like Christians to adhere to their beliefs and continue to be strong devotees to Christ while simultaneously acknowledging that homosexuality is not an immoral behavior/lifestyle/affliction in and of itself (although who cares what I would like).
Any sex outside of marriage is prohibited, for good reason: that’s a given. But, if you are going to take the INTERPRETATION that certain Greek and Hebrew words were referring to LGBT people and strongly admonish people for identifying as such, then please be consistent. I would assume you also wear clothes of only one material (Deuteronomy 22:11). Indeed, I would expect all Christians who speak out about the destructive nature of homosexuality and back it up with biblical reasoning, to follow most of the hundreds of prohibitions and commandments found throughout the Bible. I should not assume that you do not. But just as you would probably assume that I as a gay man have lots of anonymous sex and use drugs, I assume that you as a conservative Christian speak out about how this country needs to take a more biblical path and have read the entire Bible front to back, but ignore most of its instructions in your daily life. That’s not fair of me and might make me a hypocrite. I’m trying, but I am human after all. I apologize.
I’ve dealt specifically with scriptures in regards to homosexuality for many years. I struggled with accepting myself and had prayed every night for many months for God to “change” me, which according to my sister was not long enough. However, I was changed: I finally accepted that I was attracted to men and not women. I moved on. And I became much happier and closer to God. And I found the love of my life who I will marry as soon as my state clears the legal path for me to do so.
The Bible clearly states that certain men are “born eunuchs” (Matthew 19:12) as in they were not meant to marry women and procreate. In the historical context, eunuchs were simply the men entrusted to serve & protect aristocratic women. Some were already disinterested in bedding the women, which was a prerequisite, while others had to be castrated. If Jesus accepts us as such, then maybe you should, too.
The most important thing to remember is that we are all in this society together. I don’t want to live in a crumbling empire spiraling into debauchery and decadence any more than any of you do. Constant partying, promiscuity, and drug use are all recipes for disaster. They are fun for a time I guess, but ultimately lead to misery and isolation. Anyone (gay, bi , straight, trans, etc) can fall into this trap. One of the main reasons there is a ‘gay partying subculture’ is because same-sex couples were excluded from the stabilizing affects of social expectation and pressure to settle down in a permanent monogamous relationship. Marriage fosters strong bonds and rock-solid family foundations which strengthens social cohesion. That’s why I support marriage as much as I do critical thought and compassioned reason. Thanks for reading my rant. God bless!
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Hi Matt,
Thanks for visiting and commenting. I have a couple thoughts to share aside from the survey topic.
While I don’t think the “us vs. them” has to be hostile — even though the LGBTQ lobby certainly is hostile and not interested in any sort of compromise, such as leaving religious liberties intact — what you proposed is completely illogical. What you have said is basically, “Be devoted to Christ but disagree with him on what He says about sexuality.” That is impossible. He is King and Lord of all, so to be devoted to him is to agree with him. And He was very clear. Bible-believing Christians and even two out of the three types of pro-gay people* (religious or not) can see these truths:
100% of the verses addressing homosexual behavior describe it as sin in the clearest and strongest possible terms.
100% of the verses referring to God’s ideal for marriage involve one man and one woman.
100% of the verses referencing parenting involve moms and dads with unique roles (or at least a set of male and female parents guiding the children).
0% of 31,173 Bible verses refer to homosexual behavior in a positive or even benign way or even hint at the acceptability of homosexual unions of any kind.
* The three general types of pro-gay theology people: 1. “The Bible says homosexuality is wrong but it isn’t the word of God” (obviously non-Christians) 2. “The Bible says it is wrong but God changed his mind and is only telling theological Liberals” (only about 10 things wrong with that) 3. “The Bible is the word of God but you are just misunderstanding it” (Uh, no, not really.)
That is a sadly common argument, but one that is false. The literalists who assume that to be consistent with Christ’s teachings on homosexuality (and adultery, etc.) means we must follow every civil and ceremonial law given to the Israelites make two errors. One is that they ignore the distinctions of what God commanded a specific group of people at a point in time relative to his broader commandments to all people. The second is that even if their argument was true it would prove too much, as it implies that unless you wear clothes of the same material then you are inconsistent to argue against any sin, including bestiality, child sacrifice, adultery, gay-bashing, etc. That is ridiculous, of course.
Those type of “inconsistency” allegations are full of holes but is appealing to many because so few bother to study the passages. I address six serious problems with it in flaws of the shellfish argument. http://tinyurl.com/shellfishflaws
I wouldn’t have assumed that, though now that you brought it up the statistics say that it is more likely. Whether you have one partner or 100 it is a sin. And you would be 40+ times more likely to get HIV/Syphilis and if you had HIV there is a 62% chance that you would have deliberate unprotected sex.
Please show me the Bible verses that teach this:
– If you pray for God to remove a temptation, he will do it 100% of the time.
– Therefore, if he doesn’t remove the temptation, it isn’t a sin.
That is false. I could pray that God would eliminate every possible sin from my life. He could solve that by striking me dead ;-), of course, but if He didn’t answer it then it wouldn’t be an excuse for me to sin.
If you have given yourself over to homosexual behavior then it isn’t God you’ve moved closer to. Romans 1:26-28 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.
You twisted Jesus’ words to imply that eunuchs = homosexuals, while you ignore the rest of Jesus’ words (i.e., the entire Bible, including his design and ideal for marriage: one man and one woman. Using your reasoning, castration would be a more logical solution than “marrying” someone of the same sex.
I agree that less sin is better than more sin. But if I really care about you and your eternal soul then I can’t affirm your homosexual behavior as not being sinful. I hope you study the Bible more carefully and reconsider your views.
All the best to you!
Also see:
Problems with pro-gay theology http://tinyurl.com/5sgoqvv
Responding to Pro-Gay Theology http://www.exodusglobalalliance.org/respondingtoprogaytheologypartip344.php
Responding to same-sex marriage arguments http://wp.me/p1wGU-48E
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