Roundup

East Africa Journal: “Problems Facing Our Socialism” -By Barack Hussein Obama Sr. This explains a lot.  I read about this in Forbes today.  One of the President’s books is titled Dreams From My Father.  Barack is basically living out the socialist dreams of his alcoholic polygamist father that he barely knew.  The loyalty might be touching if he weren’t damaging the country fulfilling his father’s dream.

Foundry’s Civil Disobedience: Will There Be a Price To Pay?

Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington, DC voted this week to allow same-gender marriages in its church building and to support its clergy members should they choose to perform same-gender marriage ceremonies in the future, whether at Foundry or somewhere else.

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Will this vote be largely symbolic, analogous  to a state or municipality voting to ignore federal law– or will Foundry be following through with the vote by performing actual same sex wedding ceremonies? I suspect the latter, and if that’s indeed the case, then all eyes will be on Bishop John R. Schol of the Baltimore-Washington Annual Conference to see whether he’ll hold Foundry accountable or look the other way.

The vote at the church was 367 to 8. Wow, what an amazingly thorough mockery of God’s word and natural law.

I hope we exercise some church discipline for once and kick them out. Let ‘em start a new denomination. These people can’t even get Genesis 2 right, let alone the rest of the Bible.

This isn’t complicated, folks. Even many pro-”same sex marriage” promoting “Christians” will concede the following (yes, some will say Christian just read the Bible incorrectly for 2,000 years, but many will concede that the Bible is clear but that it isn’t all the word of God and that Paul was a homophobe).

  • 100% of the verses addressing homosexual behavior denounce it as sin in the clearest and strongest possible terms.
  • 100% of the verses referring to God’s ideal for marriage involve one man and one woman.
  • 100% of the verses referencing parenting involve moms and dads with unique roles (or at least a set of male and female parents guiding the children).
  • 0% of 31,173 Bible verses refer to homosexual behavior in a positive or even benign way or even hint at the acceptability of homosexual unions.

Seriously, kick this church out. Treat gays like we would other sinners: Welcome them, share the Gospel with them but don’t teach the opposite of what the Bible says.

Once again I’m on the “Methodist ledge” and wondering why I bother with this denomination.

Found a good blog via the previous link – another one of those almost-extinct evangelical Methodists. Loved his comment on this lame commercial:”What if a church actually proclaimed the Gospel for the forgiveness of sins? Would you come?”

The UMC needs to rethink church, alright.  They need to think about what the Bible says about it for a change.

From my other blog — Surprise! Another UCC false teacher — False teacher Chuck “Jesus is not the only way” Currie found another false UCC teacher to praise — see CNN: UCC Pastor Carlton Pearson Speaks About Eddie Long.

Geithner Cornered On Tax Hypocrisy – He vastly underpaid his taxes but wants to raise them for others.  Check.

I love this song by Brandon Heath — “Give me your eyes.”

It isn’t like I expect good theology from Pearls Before Swine, but it is ironic how the goat unwittingly does the same thing that so many Christians and non-Christians do: Hypocritically judges others for judging.  Of course, if they read Matthew 7:1-5 in context then they wouldn’t make this mistake.

Saw this on my daughter’s Facebook page.

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  1. I read the Forbes article and commented about it on my blog 9/13. I think it gives us some insight into how our President thinks or better said, what influences his mind. I don’t think he’s a socialist, not in the strictest sense of the word. But I do think he thinks we owe other people something.

    I encourage everyone to read the Forbes article with an open mind. If you go in thinking you’ll figure out what’s wrong with the President, you’ll find the answers you want. But if you go in with an open mind, you may understand the man a little more.

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  2. UMC has not formally endorsed same sex marriage. One chuch has endorsed it. I think quiting now just is giving up on the entire UMC by assuming there are not many people working within the system to move away from same sex marriage approval. I put my hope in the emerging churches in Africa and China. So far, the proponents of same sex marriage have not won the fight to have UMC itself officially endorse same sex marriage. I think the tide is turning and what is happening in DC is more of a political statement than a denominational stattement. I know you will prayerfuly consider before making any change.

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    1. The UMC officially states that homosexuality is against the church’s policy, yet they allow people who openly proclaim their homosexuality to become members of the church. Don’t believe me? Google “reconciling congregations”

      If they really believe homosexuality is sinful, they would have kicked out these congregations years ago.

      I predict that Foundry’s decision will now be the de facto position of the church. They haven’t put their foot down in the past, I doubt they will now.

      We need to witness to our gay brothers and sisters, but we can never allow them to think we endorse their sin. By saying nothing the UMC has endorsed their sin.

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  3. “Barack is basically living out the socialist dreams of his alcoholic polygamist father that he barely knew.”

    Did you read “Dreams From My Father”?

    I’m reading it now, but not far enough along to comment on your statement above. So far it seems to be about race and identity, not socialism. He is an absolutely wonderful writer and I look forward to reading more from him in the future.

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      1. I examine the evidence of both. I have very little evidence to trust anything Barack Obama says. The author of the article pointed to facts in the public domain that are accessible to all to assess their veracity.

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      2. Marty,

        You do not read American Thinker. Who are you kidding? You do not even have any idea who the contributors are, how many there are, what their backgrounds may be or anything else about the site other than the fact that it criticizes lefties. You have absolutely no idea whether or not it can be trusted. You just assume it can’t out of lib bias on your part.

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  4. Regarding Foundry UMC’s declaration, Bishop Schol has replied back with a letter. With the letter, it clearly states the following:

    “As your bishop, I serve the whole church and I commit to work with all people. In the midst of these difficult
    matters of the church, I will do all I can to be fair and compassionate as I work to maintain the unity and
    witness of the church. As a bishop of the church I am responsible for upholding our Book of Discipline and
    will process and follow through with any complaint or charge against a United Methodist clergyperson of the
    Baltimore-Washington Conference who performs a same gender wedding or holy union.”

    The CONGREGATION of Foundry UMC drafted the statement they voted on. The congregation has stated they support same sex marriage within Foundry UMC. The congregation of Foundry UMC has stated they will support their ministers if they choose to perform same sex marriage.

    As of now, no same sex marriage has been performed at Foundry UMC.

    As of now, the Bishop has voiced clear support of the current United Methodist Book of Discpline and that he will pursue any complaints raised through the methods allowed under the Book of Discipline should same sex marriage be performed.

    I guess I am a bit confused a this point what more should be done? It is not that the UMC leadership is doing nothing. The bishop in charge replied back with a clear statement of support for the current position on same sex marriage as outlined within the Book of Discipline. The next test will be if a same sex marriage gets performed at Foundry UMC. When that happens, we might have further understanding of where the church truly stands. Until then, I respectfully think talk of doing nothing is a bit premature. What else under the Book of Discipline should the UMC leadership be doing?

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    1. I also don’t see how this is some isolated incident of apostasy. Did the Bishop just realize what this church was like? What do they preach about each week?

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