Yes, they really argue this way

1.jpgThe following is a comment thread from a post on 1 Corinthians 7 from my Bible Study Blog.  I had noted a comment about marriage being between one man and one woman and God’s plan for human sexuality.  One guy apparently disagreed with me.

  1. The fact that you have a problem with homosexuals might mean that you have homosexual tendencies. Have you thought about that? Pastor Ted Haggard.

  2. Hi Reid,

    Who said I had a problem with homosexuals? I get along great with them.

    Your argument is what is called an ad hominem attack, which means attacking the person instead of the argument. Instead of dealing with my reasoning you try to attack my character. Whether Ted Haggard had homosexual desires is irrelevant to what God’s word says about the behavior.

    I am merely noting what the Bible says. If you think I have misinterpreted it, feel free to point out where and why.

    Otherwise, your argument is with God. If you want to accuse him of having homosexual tendencies for making his word so abundantly clear, then good luck with that.

  3. sounds flood you Christian homo. Your blog is a waste of your time and everyone elses. The word of god says you and all of your judgemental friends are already in hell. So enjoy, you scripture humper.

  4. ps eat shit

  5. How eloquent of you. Normally I’d delete your comments, but they reveal your heart so clearly that I thought others might see and learn from them.

    I ask for your reasoning and I get that in reply? Hmmmm . . . maybe you don’t have any reasoning? But don’t the skeptics usually say that Christians are the ones with blind faith?

Really, feel free to come back if you ever want a serious dialogue.

You’d think that people like Reid would be few and far between, but it comes up often.  I’m told that some people (who claim to be college educated and Christians!) make the same accusations as Reid on their blogs.  Sure, and the reason I do so much pro-life reasoning here is because I’m a closet abortionist.  Don’t tell the folks at CareNet, though.  I really have them fooled.

If you ever get arguments like this that are transparently lame attempts to shame you into silence, just laugh them off and point out that they must be desparate if all they can offer is schoolyard taunts.  “Your momma . . .” jokes are more sophisticated than what they have to offer.

Should we be surprised that those who try to defend the indefensible must resort to trying to silence us?

18 thoughts on “Yes, they really argue this way”

  1. Yes, I agree with Mark. Well done. Not sure I could have remained as calm. But alas… my site is typically free from such attacks because I really enjoy blocking them. 🙂

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  2. Not only is it ad hominen, its an incredibly shallow one.
    I have a serious problem with cole slaw. Does that make me a lettuce?

    People like reid cant argue their way out of a wet paper bag, so they quickly fall apart and resort to vile word bombs.

    Neil every once and a while its good to put this type of behavior in the sunlight which is the most effective way to kill out bacteria.

    Most people would not believe that this really is the norm among most prohomosexuals. Their aguments are driven by their emotions, rather than facts…or in this case logic.

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  3. Timothy – ha! Let’s just say I don’t let them all through ;-). I usually give new folks a couple tries, but after a while it is pointless.

    GCMWatch – good points. You probably get more of this than any of us.

    Mark – thanks!

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  4. You probably get more of this than any of us.

    You just wouldnt beleive how much. I read them and if they are at least a sound argument, its a go. But the bulk of them are just like reid’s so they go into file 13.

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  5. As someone who often pops over to your blog I find it really disappointing when people leave such abusive comments. I enjoy reading the posts here and like your style of writing and though it is a very (very very 🙂 )rare occasion that I find an issue on which we agree I certainly wouldn’t attack you simply for holding a differing opinion to mine.

    Not for the first time I’m shaking my head and wondering why, even with all our differences, we can’t just get along.

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  6. Thanks, Lucy. I enjoy blogging with people like you who can disagree without starting a jihad over it. That is the classic (and real) application of tolerance. Blessings to you.

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  7. People like Reid really frustrate me. We’re conservative Christians. WE’RE THE HATERS, DAMNIT!!!! I hate when they steal our thunder.

    ——–end sarcasm———–

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  8. This type of “reasoning” is eerily similar to what I’ve encountered in academia from highly intelligent and educated people (Particularly on the topic of origins).

    I’ve observed (who says Christians aren’t empirical?) that people’s opposition to the things of God is most often a spiritual issue and has little to do with intellectual issues.

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  9. Laz, I actually had an atheist admit that to me. As I got to know him, I found that his father died when he was 12 and he was suffering from MS. Finally I asked him, “So, it’s not that you don’t believe in God … it’s that you’re really mad at Him, isn’t it?” He thought about it and admitted it.

    Not about intellectual issues …

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  10. I know of some bad ones! I added a note to my weekly roundup for Friday to have people put any links in the comments section, or people can reply here if they see your comment. That area is not my forte’.

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  11. Neil,

    I happen to feel that your blog is a blessing, which is why I link to it. It saves me time as well when I can provide a link to one of your posts and basically state “Yeah, What he said:”

    If you are like me, I feel it is the love of Jesus that compels us to share truth and to look past hateful words and action to address the more important condition and desperate spiritual need of lost people. The Scriptures record that remarkably, as Stephen was being stoned to death, he prayed that the sin of those stoning him not be charged against them. And of course, God used this tragic event to help shape the life of the Apostle Paul.

    So, keep up the good work. Keep planting seeds. We need some of the naysayers to join our Christian team!

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  12. Thanks, Jay, I appreciate that. I’m convicted by Stephen and countless other martyrs who faced persecution and death that way, and here I sit so thin-skinned most of the time.

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  13. Good response, Neil. I’m sitting here giggling at your articulate come-back. Now I don’t feel so bad about the anonymous comment-leaver on my blog who told me I never should have had children and need to overcome my arrogance. (??? From someone who’d never met me, no less???)

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  14. Thanks, Marie! That is just one of the downsides of blogging.

    Maybe your commenter was the same as this guy . . . no, unfortunately there are plenty like that!

    I enjoyed your blog – keep up the good work.

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